> seems like an extreme position I assume you mean "no touchscreen controls" is extreme. I probably wasn't clear. By "controls" I meant those for "live" contro

> seems like an extreme position I assume you mean "no touchscreen controls" is extreme. I probably wasn't clear. By "controls" I meant those for "live" controls (environment, audio, etc). Touchscreen for settings totally make sense - as you said, it doesn't make sense to have physical inputs for settings like lights off delay. >have them not operate while car is in motion I'm okay with that too