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> Why should ATC at a busy airport be so accommodating? Apropos of the other issues already being well debated: 1. ATCs role is to facilitate use of the airpo
by FireBeyond 3y ago
> Why should ATC at a busy airport be so accommodating?
Apropos of the other issues already being well debated:
1. ATCs role is to facilitate use of the airport.
2. They/the airport are being paid by Lufthansa to do so:
~$4,000 landing fee based on the OEW + 5% fuel being 340,000lb at $9.11/1000 lb.
~$800 for up to 8 hours at a gate (or a flat rate of $36,000/mo per aircraft for a frequently visiting ship).
~$1,000 for common use of terminal facilities (for airlines that don't have dedicated terminals - often with internationals, where they have the common check in area that is used by multiple airlines).
And that's not all the charges the airline gets from the airport, that's just the majority of the charges for "1 aircraft, 1 landing/departure" at SFO.
- ra7 3y agoThis is great information. Are these pricing details publicly available for airports?
- p_l 3y agoYes, landing fees are public and in most countries are set same for everyone based on type of aircraft and sometimes operations, but not who is flying. They are supposed to directly reflect funding of airport maintenance, thus fees decided based on how damaging the plane is to the runway etc.
- FireBeyond 3y agohttps://www.flysfo.com/sites/default/files/assets/investor/FY20-21_Summary_of_Airport_Charges.pdf https://www.flysfo.com/sites/default/files/assets/investor/F...
- filleduchaos 3y agoAdditionally, there's a whole laundry list of charges you can see on most international flight tickets. For example on my last flight ticket from Nigeria (my country of residence) to the US with United, there are Nigeria-specific sales taxes and airport service charge fees listed as well as two separate US Customs and Immigrations fees, a "September 11th Security fee", and a US transportation tax.
- CaptainZapp 3y agoHere are the charges for Zurich airport (PDF)[0]. It's extremely detailed and I would assume every major airport publishes them. Also, let's just say that landing a heavy plane after midnight gets very, very expensive. [0] https://media.flughafen-zuerich.ch/-/jssmedia/airport/portal/dokumente/business/airlines-and-handling/flight-operations/schedule-of-charges/20230401gebhrenreglementen35.pdf?vs=1&rev=64265ce51d7c41048fec69ee9e2eacf0&_ga=2.209204372.763819744.1703068020-676475624.1703068019 https://media.flughafen-zuerich.ch/-/jssmedia/airport/portal...
- pixl97 3y agoAnd if the separation delay caused by this one aircraft caused another one or two aircraft to delay instead? Unfortunately this airport sounds like it's seriously overcrowded and not designed well for the amount of traffic it's getting.