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Original comment is specifically talking about Miami, which is a city where young people are trying to live and work.

Aurornis 3y ago
> which is a city where young people are trying to live and work. I specifically quoted the part talking about "million dollar+ mansions" in "intercoastal areas". The comment about condos in Miami not having lights on at 7-9PM was a separate point, but I don't think it's really true that "half" the condos in Miami are empty for no good reason. People work late, people go on vacation, people go out on the town.
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- zbrozek 3y ago
  In my townhouse in Sunnyvale the lights are off, despite that I'm home right now. Sitting in the dark is better than paying PG&E's ridiculous rates. I wish it were easier to install solar here.
  - ta1243 3y ago
    That's ridiculous. The lightbuilbs in my living room use 15W, 25 if I include the lamps. To sit in the dark for 6 hours while paying a whopping $1/kWh would save me 15 cents.
    - zbrozek 3y ago
      It is ridiculous. But when I'm away from solar, I'm extremely frugal with energy because it's so expensive here. It's a matter of feeling ripped off, not whether or not one can afford it. Rates here feel like buying water at an amusement park, except that you live with it all the time.
      - ta1243 3y ago
        OK, you sit in the dark so you can save 1c an hour. Have fun.
    - bitxbitxbitcoin 3y ago
      Speaking of ridiculous… Average residential cost per kWh in Sunnyvale is actually $0.30 not $30 or $1.
      - ta1243 3y ago
        > Speaking of ridiculous… Average residential cost per kWh in Sunnyvale is actually $30 not $1. No, it's not. That could potentially be the cost of electricity in somewhere like the South Pole. "The average electric rates in Sunnyvale, CA cost 31 ¢/kilowatt-hour (kWh)" https://www.energysage.com/local-data/electricity-cost/ca/santa-clara-county/sunnyvale/ https://www.energysage.com/local-data/electricity-cost/ca/sa... You'd have to provide some shockingly well sourced data to explain why electricity cost in one location is 100 times that of the rest of California, or how the average resident spends over $150,000 a year on electricity (the average per capita use in Santa Clara county is 6.2MW) https://findenergy.com/ca/santa-clara-county-electricity/ https://findenergy.com/ca/santa-clara-county-electricity/
        bitxbitxbitcoin 3y ago
        No need for well sourced data. Just a misread! Maybe take an introspective look at your interactions with other people. You seem a little unhinged!
      - zbrozek 3y ago
        From 7-9 PM, the time in question, my marginal cost is $0.43662. See the tariff specification: https://www.pge.com/tariffs/assets/pdf/tariffbook/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-TOU-C.pdf https://www.pge.com/tariffs/assets/pdf/tariffbook/ELEC_SCHED... It's just really, really high compared to the rest of the country. Or even the next city over, which is what makes it really hurt.

> which is a city where young people are trying to live and work. I specifically quoted the part talking about "million dollar+ mansions" in "intercoastal areas". The comment about condos in Miami not having lights on at 7-9PM was a separate point, but I don't think it's really true that "half" the condos in Miami are empty for no good reason. People work late, people go on vacation, people go out on the town.

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zbrozek 3y ago
In my townhouse in Sunnyvale the lights are off, despite that I'm home right now. Sitting in the dark is better than paying PG&E's ridiculous rates. I wish it were easier to install solar here.
- ta1243 3y ago
  That's ridiculous. The lightbuilbs in my living room use 15W, 25 if I include the lamps. To sit in the dark for 6 hours while paying a whopping $1/kWh would save me 15 cents.
  - zbrozek 3y ago
    It is ridiculous. But when I'm away from solar, I'm extremely frugal with energy because it's so expensive here. It's a matter of feeling ripped off, not whether or not one can afford it. Rates here feel like buying water at an amusement park, except that you live with it all the time.
    - ta1243 3y ago
      OK, you sit in the dark so you can save 1c an hour. Have fun.
  - bitxbitxbitcoin 3y ago
    Speaking of ridiculous… Average residential cost per kWh in Sunnyvale is actually $0.30 not $30 or $1.
    - ta1243 3y ago
      > Speaking of ridiculous… Average residential cost per kWh in Sunnyvale is actually $30 not $1. No, it's not. That could potentially be the cost of electricity in somewhere like the South Pole. "The average electric rates in Sunnyvale, CA cost 31 ¢/kilowatt-hour (kWh)" https://www.energysage.com/local-data/electricity-cost/ca/santa-clara-county/sunnyvale/ https://www.energysage.com/local-data/electricity-cost/ca/sa... You'd have to provide some shockingly well sourced data to explain why electricity cost in one location is 100 times that of the rest of California, or how the average resident spends over $150,000 a year on electricity (the average per capita use in Santa Clara county is 6.2MW) https://findenergy.com/ca/santa-clara-county-electricity/ https://findenergy.com/ca/santa-clara-county-electricity/
      - bitxbitxbitcoin 3y ago
        No need for well sourced data. Just a misread! Maybe take an introspective look at your interactions with other people. You seem a little unhinged!
    - zbrozek 3y ago
      From 7-9 PM, the time in question, my marginal cost is $0.43662. See the tariff specification: https://www.pge.com/tariffs/assets/pdf/tariffbook/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-TOU-C.pdf https://www.pge.com/tariffs/assets/pdf/tariffbook/ELEC_SCHED... It's just really, really high compared to the rest of the country. Or even the next city over, which is what makes it really hurt.