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I don't doubt you can find an instance that smokes your average workstation. The question is how much more does it cost over just buying the equivalent machine

I don't doubt you can find an instance that smokes your average workstation. The question is how much more does it cost over just buying the equivalent machine outright. Is the markup reasonable, is it crazy, or is it an outright scam such as charging for egress data? Knowing AWS, it definitely won't be the first option, because why would it be if people are willing to pay more?

dijit 3y ago
Ran the numbers for you. On-Demand: $3.43/hr ($2503.90 monthly) Reserved: $2.27/hr ($1657.10 monthly) M3 Max 16" (all upgrades; to be generous): $7199.00 means about 3months on-demand or 4.5~ months reserved. Not nearly as bad as I was expecting to be perfectly honest with you. I did similar calculations recently and it ended up being 3 months for equivalent server grade hardware (IE; 256GiB ECC ram, 64 physical threads; 8TiB NVMe) -- so I bought the hardware and since then have saved more than 3x the cost. It seems not to be the case with Graviton instances I guess. :D
- nathants 3y ago
  don’t forget spot pricing!
- grogenaut 3y ago
  I work for an amazon subsidiary, I get hella discounts as well.
- grogenaut 3y ago
  @dijit what server hardware did you get?
  - dijit 3y ago
    3 of these https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/servers-storage/servers/racks/thinksystem-sr645-v3/len21ts0008 https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/servers-storage/servers/racks... 4 units (its 4 machines in a single chassis) of this: https://www.gigabyte.com/Enterprise/High-Density-Server/H262-P60-rev-100 https://www.gigabyte.com/Enterprise/High-Density-Server/H262... all linked with a 10G switch: https://mikrotik.com/product/crs312_4c_8xg_rm https://mikrotik.com/product/crs312_4c_8xg_rm
grogenaut 3y ago
My mac cost like 7k with taxes. the R7G costs a lot less as I can turn it off and return it when i'm not using it. To do that processing job I'm paying less than a few bucks... less than that as I work for an company with aws discounts. At the rates I get for those machines it'd take several years to equal the 7k or so my mac cost when processing. And it's again absurdly faster. When you take into account actual streaming which is unfair as the data is in the same data center with the cloud instance, the job on the mac took 4 hours just to stream the data in and map it, and around 4 hours to reduce it. Both stages of that on the r7g were around 16 minutes. Again unfair as even though I have gigabit at home I'm still pulling 2-4x the throughput in the cloud instance from S3. My workloads aren't generally egressing tons of data from AWS, Im not running a file sharing service... that's not the majority of our costs. I'm not just bulk serving data from S3, I'm doing a lot of processing on data. anyway, I provided as close to I can on numbers. Take it or leave it on if you believe me.

dijit 3y ago

Ran the numbers for you. On-Demand: $3.43/hr ($2503.90 monthly) Reserved: $2.27/hr ($1657.10 monthly) M3 Max 16" (all upgrades; to be generous): $7199.00 means about 3months on-demand or 4.5~ months reserved. Not nearly as bad as I was expecting to be perfectly honest with you. I did similar calculations recently and it ended up being 3 months for equivalent server grade hardware (IE; 256GiB ECC ram, 64 physical threads; 8TiB NVMe) -- so I bought the hardware and since then have saved more than 3x the cost. It seems not to be the case with Graviton instances I guess. :D

nathants 3y ago
don’t forget spot pricing!
grogenaut 3y ago
I work for an amazon subsidiary, I get hella discounts as well.
grogenaut 3y ago
@dijit what server hardware did you get?
- dijit 3y ago
  3 of these https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/servers-storage/servers/racks/thinksystem-sr645-v3/len21ts0008 https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/servers-storage/servers/racks... 4 units (its 4 machines in a single chassis) of this: https://www.gigabyte.com/Enterprise/High-Density-Server/H262-P60-rev-100 https://www.gigabyte.com/Enterprise/High-Density-Server/H262... all linked with a 10G switch: https://mikrotik.com/product/crs312_4c_8xg_rm https://mikrotik.com/product/crs312_4c_8xg_rm

grogenaut 3y ago

My mac cost like 7k with taxes. the R7G costs a lot less as I can turn it off and return it when i'm not using it. To do that processing job I'm paying less than a few bucks... less than that as I work for an company with aws discounts. At the rates I get for those machines it'd take several years to equal the 7k or so my mac cost when processing. And it's again absurdly faster. When you take into account actual streaming which is unfair as the data is in the same data center with the cloud instance, the job on the mac took 4 hours just to stream the data in and map it, and around 4 hours to reduce it. Both stages of that on the r7g were around 16 minutes. Again unfair as even though I have gigabit at home I'm still pulling 2-4x the throughput in the cloud instance from S3. My workloads aren't generally egressing tons of data from AWS, Im not running a file sharing service... that's not the majority of our costs. I'm not just bulk serving data from S3, I'm doing a lot of processing on data. anyway, I provided as close to I can on numbers. Take it or leave it on if you believe me.