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> I’ve always wanted another light on cars to signal approval ... go ahead. Not sure I agree with the "go ahead", it should never be ambiguous who's turn it i

> I’ve always wanted another light on cars to signal approval ... go ahead. Not sure I agree with the "go ahead", it should never be ambiguous who's turn it is. > Also, front brake lights for people to see you are braking But this yes! How come the brake lights are just in the back and not also in the front? So obvious it should be.

kmoser 3y ago
> Not sure I agree with the "go ahead", it should never be ambiguous who's turn it is. Legally it may not be ambiguous but in reality some drivers don't remember they have the right-of-way and you have to remind them, otherwise it becomes a stalemate. Also sometimes you have the right-of-way but you want to yield it because, e.g. you need more time to process the situation (is that a small animal in the road? do I need to turn left here instead?) or you simply want to be a good Samaritan (let that pedestrian cross even though they are technically jaywalking). I always drive with headlights on, and my way of yielding (or simply telling the other car or person to go ahead) is to flash my headlights a couple of times.
- CaptainOfCoit 3y ago
  > don't remember they have the right-of-way and you have to remind them, otherwise it becomes a stalemate Then that's the problem, that people don't remember the right-of-way. In these cases, I simply wait for them, trying to signal to them with my hand or my horn, as it is their right-of-way. > simply want to be a good Samaritan (let that pedestrian cross even though they are technically jaywalking) This causes accidents though, as suddenly you're driving unpredictable because you're trying to be nice. And yes, I'm not saying other drivers aren't unpredictable already, but less of that would certainly be better. Be educated, be right and be safe. Then both drivers and pedestrians end up in less accidents.
  - kmoser 3y ago
    > Then that's the problem, that people don't remember the right-of-way. In these cases, I simply wait for them, trying to signal to them with my hand or my horn, as it is their right-of-way. So now you're advocating for what @cromulent wrote: "I’ve always wanted another light on cars to signal approval ... go ahead" (i.e. a way to signal to the other driver), but a few comments above you disagreed with the need for a special light to do just that. Since you obviously think there's occasionally a need to signal to the other driver that you are yielding to them, why wouldn't you want a light to do so? Hands only work when they can see you (hands aren't always visible through glass due to reflections, and you don't want to roll down your window when it's raining hard) and horns only work when they can hear you (not hearing impaired or listening to music on headphones) and understand that a honk means "you can go!", not "watch out, here I come!" > This causes accidents though, as suddenly you're driving unpredictable because you're trying to be nice. Who said anything about being unpredictable? If I have to slow down to avoid a pedestrian, I'm going to do it, even if it means a slight chance of being rear-ended by the driver behind me who isn't driving a safe distance. That's also a perfect example of a time when I'd want to yield to the pedestrian so they can get out of the road without me having to swerve left or right to avoid them. What better way to tell them I'm yielding than with a special light designed to convey that?

kmoser 3y ago

> Not sure I agree with the "go ahead", it should never be ambiguous who's turn it is. Legally it may not be ambiguous but in reality some drivers don't remember they have the right-of-way and you have to remind them, otherwise it becomes a stalemate. Also sometimes you have the right-of-way but you want to yield it because, e.g. you need more time to process the situation (is that a small animal in the road? do I need to turn left here instead?) or you simply want to be a good Samaritan (let that pedestrian cross even though they are technically jaywalking). I always drive with headlights on, and my way of yielding (or simply telling the other car or person to go ahead) is to flash my headlights a couple of times.

CaptainOfCoit 3y ago
> don't remember they have the right-of-way and you have to remind them, otherwise it becomes a stalemate Then that's the problem, that people don't remember the right-of-way. In these cases, I simply wait for them, trying to signal to them with my hand or my horn, as it is their right-of-way. > simply want to be a good Samaritan (let that pedestrian cross even though they are technically jaywalking) This causes accidents though, as suddenly you're driving unpredictable because you're trying to be nice. And yes, I'm not saying other drivers aren't unpredictable already, but less of that would certainly be better. Be educated, be right and be safe. Then both drivers and pedestrians end up in less accidents.
- kmoser 3y ago
  > Then that's the problem, that people don't remember the right-of-way. In these cases, I simply wait for them, trying to signal to them with my hand or my horn, as it is their right-of-way. So now you're advocating for what @cromulent wrote: "I’ve always wanted another light on cars to signal approval ... go ahead" (i.e. a way to signal to the other driver), but a few comments above you disagreed with the need for a special light to do just that. Since you obviously think there's occasionally a need to signal to the other driver that you are yielding to them, why wouldn't you want a light to do so? Hands only work when they can see you (hands aren't always visible through glass due to reflections, and you don't want to roll down your window when it's raining hard) and horns only work when they can hear you (not hearing impaired or listening to music on headphones) and understand that a honk means "you can go!", not "watch out, here I come!" > This causes accidents though, as suddenly you're driving unpredictable because you're trying to be nice. Who said anything about being unpredictable? If I have to slow down to avoid a pedestrian, I'm going to do it, even if it means a slight chance of being rear-ended by the driver behind me who isn't driving a safe distance. That's also a perfect example of a time when I'd want to yield to the pedestrian so they can get out of the road without me having to swerve left or right to avoid them. What better way to tell them I'm yielding than with a special light designed to convey that?