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When you imagine a red ball, where is that red ball physically? Not the atoms of the neuron configuration etc., but the plane of existence where you place the
by mensetmanusman 3y ago
When you imagine a red ball, where is that red ball physically?
Not the atoms of the neuron configuration etc., but the plane of existence where you place the red ball.
- digging 3y agoI don't understand the question or how it relates to my comment, can you elaborate what you mean by "plane of existence"?
- mensetmanusman 3y agoWhen you imagine from your minds eye, that is a plane of some sort. If we understood exactly where or how this plane exists and for whom, we could arbitrarily place objects and ideas in this plane. Eg force someone to think of a red ball bouncing, or pull imagined objects forcefully out of the plane.
- mannykannot 3y agoEg force someone to think of a red ball bouncing... Indeed: put them in a sensory-deprivation tank and show them a video of a (possibly simulated) ball bouncing. Their existing network of neurons will do the rest.
- digging 3y agoYou're asking me to define the physical nature of thought? Of subjective experience? I can't. No one can. As I already said, though, that doesn't mean we should assume there's something metaphysical going on. When I think of a red ball neurons fire. We have no reason to believe there is anything else going on because we have no evidence one way or the other. The experience of thinking of a red ball is not evidence that there's anything supernatural going on.
- mensetmanusman 3y agoIf you can't touch the plane of thought, it isn't physical.
- mannykannot 3y agoWhen my computer simulates a red ball bouncing on the floor, where is that red ball physically?
- mensetmanusman 3y agothat's just binary rgb code that is reminding the mind of a red ball :)
- mannykannot 3y agoPrecisely.
- TheOtherHobbes 3y agoLuckily reality is nothing like this. Probably.
- mannykannot 3y agoI suppose so - but then, if David Chalmers finds that it's conceivable that it is, it must be at least metaphysically possible.
- GoblinSlayer 3y agoIt's still physically impossible.