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FTA: Not only did that fraud end up screwing over the retail investors who made the Saudis and the other early investors a pile of money after the company’s IP
by aaroninsf 3y ago
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Not only did that fraud end up screwing over the retail investors who made the Saudis and the other early investors a pile of money after the company’s IPO – but it also destroyed the legitimate taxi business and convinced cities all over the world to starve their transit systems of investment because Uber seemed so much cheaper. Uber continues to hemorrhage money, resorting to cheap accounting tricks to make it seem like they’re finally turning it around, even as they double the price of rides and halve driver pay (and still lose money on every ride). The market can remain irrational longer than any of us can stay solvent, but when Uber runs out of suckers, it will go the way of other pump-and-dumps like WeWork.
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Enumerating the manifest harms doesn't mean you didn't enjoy cheap rides for a time, it's not all or nothing.
"Cheap rides" do have a measurable cost to others and society.
In addition to the ills cited here one could add many others, not least of which was the elevation of a grotesque ethos of "breaking things" (i.e. evading any legal obligation or social responsibility until regulators and critics, viewed with contempt, "catch up"), and notably distilled down douche-bag toxic tech-bro culture. Both of which still tarnish and retard our industry.
- ctoth 3y agoRight. He talks about hypothetical outcomes as if they have happened, which dramatically reduces his credibility. For instance, in Denver, we still have several (I think even more than when I moved here in 2011) Taxi companies. Those Taxi companies actually use apps now. Those companies don't ever have the "oh the credit card reader is broken" excuse anymore. Riding a Non-uber Taxicab in Denver is an objectively improved experience now! > douche-bag toxic tech-bro culture. Ah, I see where you're coming from now.
- aaroninsf 3y agoThat is indeed what turned me from neutral and mildly interested, having been suckered by the "share" posture, into a life-long hater. The culture there was among the worst and most egregious, but it opened the door to unapologetic toxicity that the Valley has never recovered from. There's no excusing it, no overlooking it, and those who would defend it or ignore it are worse than complicit.
- worik 3y ago> Right. He talks about hypothetical outcomes as if they have happened No. Cherry picking counter examples does not disprove the main point, which is describing a business model.