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The comptroller’s report makes it look more like white flight. Especially figure 6.

cft 3y ago
Not sure how you drew that conclusion, from the original write-up: "The median wage of those who left the city in 2022 was $49,000, which was 18% less than those who left in 2021. Among those who left the city in 2022, 64% were non-White, which was higher than the 58% in 2021 and the 62% in 2019 and 2018."
light_hue_1 3y ago
It's the opposite. Minorities are being pushed out. > Among those who left the city in 2022, 64% were non-White, which was higher than the 58% in 2021 and the 62% in 2019 and 2018. From April 2020 to June 2022, the population of all major racial and ethnic groups declined after a decade of increases, but did so at varying rates. White and Black populations in the city fell 6.7% and 6.0% respectively — greater than the overall population decline — while the declines in Hispanic (5%) and Asian (2.5%) New Yorkers were smaller.
- legolas2412 3y ago
  Umm, NYC is 30% white (so, 70% non-white). If among those who left were 64% non-white (or 36% white), if anything, whites are disproportionately being pushed out. Although I would not say there was any group who is a majority in NYC.
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miiiiiike 3y ago
I was there from 2012 to 2022 (with a year or two in DC). If my circles are any indication, and they are, it was “cramped in a one bedroom apartment for two years working jobs we could do from anywhere”-flight. I live on 1.33 acres and have a dog now.
- ghaff 3y ago
  Although I would say it's been the case for a long time that people who move to NYC to take a job (typically in the finance industry) after graduation tend to move out in ten years or less. A bunch of people from my graduating class moved to NYC and very few of that cohort I stayed in touch with were still there after a decade. An interesting possible dynamic is that long-term dynamic stays in place but fewer new people move in.
  - miiiiiike 3y ago
    I really loved living in NYC. If COVID hadn't happened I probably would have died in Astoria.

cft 3y ago

Not sure how you drew that conclusion, from the original write-up: "The median wage of those who left the city in 2022 was $49,000, which was 18% less than those who left in 2021. Among those who left the city in 2022, 64% were non-White, which was higher than the 58% in 2021 and the 62% in 2019 and 2018."

light_hue_1 3y ago

It's the opposite. Minorities are being pushed out. > Among those who left the city in 2022, 64% were non-White, which was higher than the 58% in 2021 and the 62% in 2019 and 2018. From April 2020 to June 2022, the population of all major racial and ethnic groups declined after a decade of increases, but did so at varying rates. White and Black populations in the city fell 6.7% and 6.0% respectively — greater than the overall population decline — while the declines in Hispanic (5%) and Asian (2.5%) New Yorkers were smaller.

legolas2412 3y ago
Umm, NYC is 30% white (so, 70% non-white). If among those who left were 64% non-white (or 36% white), if anything, whites are disproportionately being pushed out. Although I would not say there was any group who is a majority in NYC.

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miiiiiike 3y ago

I was there from 2012 to 2022 (with a year or two in DC). If my circles are any indication, and they are, it was “cramped in a one bedroom apartment for two years working jobs we could do from anywhere”-flight. I live on 1.33 acres and have a dog now.

ghaff 3y ago
Although I would say it's been the case for a long time that people who move to NYC to take a job (typically in the finance industry) after graduation tend to move out in ten years or less. A bunch of people from my graduating class moved to NYC and very few of that cohort I stayed in touch with were still there after a decade. An interesting possible dynamic is that long-term dynamic stays in place but fewer new people move in.
- miiiiiike 3y ago
  I really loved living in NYC. If COVID hadn't happened I probably would have died in Astoria.