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It seems worth looking into what section of the population (either in terms of age or marital status or number of children or education or salary or whatnot) is

It seems worth looking into what section of the population (either in terms of age or marital status or number of children or education or salary or whatnot) is moving out of NYC. For example, NYC still ranks at the top of where college graduates apply to [0]. [0] https://joinhandshake.com/blog/employers/where-are-college-students-going-after-they-graduate/ https://joinhandshake.com/blog/employers/where-are-college-s...

junofan 3y ago
The comptroller’s report makes it look more like white flight. Especially figure 6.
- cft 3y ago
  Not sure how you drew that conclusion, from the original write-up: "The median wage of those who left the city in 2022 was $49,000, which was 18% less than those who left in 2021. Among those who left the city in 2022, 64% were non-White, which was higher than the 58% in 2021 and the 62% in 2019 and 2018."
- light_hue_1 3y ago
  It's the opposite. Minorities are being pushed out. > Among those who left the city in 2022, 64% were non-White, which was higher than the 58% in 2021 and the 62% in 2019 and 2018. From April 2020 to June 2022, the population of all major racial and ethnic groups declined after a decade of increases, but did so at varying rates. White and Black populations in the city fell 6.7% and 6.0% respectively — greater than the overall population decline — while the declines in Hispanic (5%) and Asian (2.5%) New Yorkers were smaller.
  - legolas2412 3y ago
    Umm, NYC is 30% white (so, 70% non-white). If among those who left were 64% non-white (or 36% white), if anything, whites are disproportionately being pushed out. Although I would not say there was any group who is a majority in NYC.
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- miiiiiike 3y ago
  I was there from 2012 to 2022 (with a year or two in DC). If my circles are any indication, and they are, it was “cramped in a one bedroom apartment for two years working jobs we could do from anywhere”-flight. I live on 1.33 acres and have a dog now.
  - ghaff 3y ago
    Although I would say it's been the case for a long time that people who move to NYC to take a job (typically in the finance industry) after graduation tend to move out in ten years or less. A bunch of people from my graduating class moved to NYC and very few of that cohort I stayed in touch with were still there after a decade. An interesting possible dynamic is that long-term dynamic stays in place but fewer new people move in.
    - miiiiiike 3y ago
      I really loved living in NYC. If COVID hadn't happened I probably would have died in Astoria.
chrisco255 3y ago
This is mostly a function of population size for a city. NYC is by far the largest city so it makes sense they would also be among the cities getting the most applicants. You'd have to do a trend or growth rate analysis to see what's happening.

junofan 3y ago

The comptroller’s report makes it look more like white flight. Especially figure 6.

cft 3y ago
Not sure how you drew that conclusion, from the original write-up: "The median wage of those who left the city in 2022 was $49,000, which was 18% less than those who left in 2021. Among those who left the city in 2022, 64% were non-White, which was higher than the 58% in 2021 and the 62% in 2019 and 2018."
light_hue_1 3y ago
It's the opposite. Minorities are being pushed out. > Among those who left the city in 2022, 64% were non-White, which was higher than the 58% in 2021 and the 62% in 2019 and 2018. From April 2020 to June 2022, the population of all major racial and ethnic groups declined after a decade of increases, but did so at varying rates. White and Black populations in the city fell 6.7% and 6.0% respectively — greater than the overall population decline — while the declines in Hispanic (5%) and Asian (2.5%) New Yorkers were smaller.
- legolas2412 3y ago
  Umm, NYC is 30% white (so, 70% non-white). If among those who left were 64% non-white (or 36% white), if anything, whites are disproportionately being pushed out. Although I would not say there was any group who is a majority in NYC.
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miiiiiike 3y ago
I was there from 2012 to 2022 (with a year or two in DC). If my circles are any indication, and they are, it was “cramped in a one bedroom apartment for two years working jobs we could do from anywhere”-flight. I live on 1.33 acres and have a dog now.
- ghaff 3y ago
  Although I would say it's been the case for a long time that people who move to NYC to take a job (typically in the finance industry) after graduation tend to move out in ten years or less. A bunch of people from my graduating class moved to NYC and very few of that cohort I stayed in touch with were still there after a decade. An interesting possible dynamic is that long-term dynamic stays in place but fewer new people move in.
  - miiiiiike 3y ago
    I really loved living in NYC. If COVID hadn't happened I probably would have died in Astoria.

chrisco255 3y ago

This is mostly a function of population size for a city. NYC is by far the largest city so it makes sense they would also be among the cities getting the most applicants. You'd have to do a trend or growth rate analysis to see what's happening.