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Only around 0.4% of the city's population died of COVID, as of March 2023.

by saalweachter 3y ago

ghj 3y ago
That's crazy high isn't it? That's 1 out of 250 people!
- fifilura 3y ago
  Still, over three years around 1 out of 40 die of other causes.
- flextheruler 3y ago
  Drug overdoses killed more than covid in NYC in 2021
- saalweachter 3y ago
  I mean, yeah, some absurd fraction of NYC (25%? 50%?) got it before we knew how to treat it. But it's less than a tenth of the total population loss, so it's probably not worth trying to figure out either if the actual toll was higher than the official death toll (maybe by a factor of two?), or if some in the first wave would have died by now of other causes.
- floxy 3y ago
  ~1% of the population dies every year.
- michaelt 3y ago
  Sources like [1] put New York at 379 in 100,000 people, or 0.379% making it the 15th worst hit US state. Bear in mind that even if everyone in the country lived to 100 then died of old age, you'd still have a 1% of people dying every year. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covi... [2] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
BiteCode_dev 3y ago
"Only" But yeah, not the cause.
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pierat 3y ago
Every government has a justification to minimize Covid deaths. And that quote is the 'official death toll'. My guess is this is grossly underreported. My original idea to track deaths was to compare before-covid year-to-year to during and after. Using death records would sidestep the 'died from covid' and 'died from covid but written down as something else'. But hot damn. My post is at -4. Sure seems like people really don't appreciate 'intellectual curiosity' that much.
- hervature 3y ago
  I think you may be getting downvoted for a couple of reasons. First, your "original idea" is called excess deaths and it has been reported since the beginning of the pandemic [1]. The entire state of NY had 42k excess deaths. If all these deaths came form NYC, that would be 0.5% of the population which is in line with the GP. Which brings us to the point of why some people are downvoting. Some people believe that COVID deaths were over reported, not under reported. [1] - https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

Only around 0.4% of the city's population died of COVID, as of March 2023.

ghj 3y ago

That's crazy high isn't it? That's 1 out of 250 people!

fifilura 3y ago
Still, over three years around 1 out of 40 die of other causes.
flextheruler 3y ago
Drug overdoses killed more than covid in NYC in 2021
saalweachter 3y ago
I mean, yeah, some absurd fraction of NYC (25%? 50%?) got it before we knew how to treat it. But it's less than a tenth of the total population loss, so it's probably not worth trying to figure out either if the actual toll was higher than the official death toll (maybe by a factor of two?), or if some in the first wave would have died by now of other causes.
floxy 3y ago
~1% of the population dies every year.
michaelt 3y ago
Sources like [1] put New York at 379 in 100,000 people, or 0.379% making it the 15th worst hit US state. Bear in mind that even if everyone in the country lived to 100 then died of old age, you'd still have a 1% of people dying every year. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covi... [2] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm

BiteCode_dev 3y ago

"Only" But yeah, not the cause.

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pierat 3y ago

Every government has a justification to minimize Covid deaths. And that quote is the 'official death toll'. My guess is this is grossly underreported. My original idea to track deaths was to compare before-covid year-to-year to during and after. Using death records would sidestep the 'died from covid' and 'died from covid but written down as something else'. But hot damn. My post is at -4. Sure seems like people really don't appreciate 'intellectual curiosity' that much.

hervature 3y ago
I think you may be getting downvoted for a couple of reasons. First, your "original idea" is called excess deaths and it has been reported since the beginning of the pandemic [1]. The entire state of NY had 42k excess deaths. If all these deaths came form NYC, that would be 0.5% of the population which is in line with the GP. Which brings us to the point of why some people are downvoting. Some people believe that COVID deaths were over reported, not under reported. [1] - https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm