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>Two reasons: one is that the idea that there was mass censorship of scientific debate is a right-wing trope It's really not. Here's the problem, even if it is
by incomingpain 3y ago
>Two reasons: one is that the idea that there was mass censorship of scientific debate is a right-wing trope
It's really not. Here's the problem, even if it is. Lets even say this is all wrong, no censorship at all happening.
What's happening because of the perception is that the medical community is losing a significant portion of people. The trust in medical field is dropping. https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2022/02/15/americans-trust-in-scientists-other-groups-declines/ https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2022/02/15/americans-tru...
Now look at who those groups are who distrust medicine the most. It is 'right winger priests' but also it's elected officials and journalists. They are generally speaking who got censored. Funny how so many medical professionals lost their job because they wouldn't take the vaccine? Weird.
But what is the consequences of this drop in trust? Less then half of people are getting the flu shot now. There was very low uptake on covid boosters.
So lets talk personally.
I am up to date on all sterilizing vaccines. I used to go first day for the flu shot, every year. I got 'fully vaccinated' for covid.
I never went for any boosters and haven't gotten flu shots since the censorship started. Seems to me the correct decision because I am unable to make an informed decision anymore. I believe I was intentionally misinformed about the covid vaccines. What's the medical profession's ethics on this?
I believe in the flu shot and similar, I think everyone should get the MMR, TDAP etc. But I'm censored from discussing the subject. Me and the many people like me are totally fine accepting that we are censored and we aren't going to get any more shots. If the medical profession thinks it's important for us to get our shots, perhaps they could try not censoring the subject?
>For example, they describe Robert Malone as “an internationally recognized virologist and immunologist” taking care not to mention that what lead to his Twitter account being banned was promulgation of known-false claims about Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine as cures and falsely claiming that the vaccines were cytotoxic.
I am vaguely familiar with Robert Malone. Looking at his wiki page, he literally is a doctor, is literally a person who worked on mrna and was censored. That wiki page is extremely biased, which is normal these days for political wiki. Clear political influence, not scientific or medical doing that.
I guess I'm not familiar with him because of censorship?
You're not helping your argument at all. Thanks for proving my case even more.
- acdha 3y ago> That wiki page is extremely biased, which is normal these days for political wiki. It’s interesting how you admit being unfamiliar with him, but instantly know that the things which were reported at the time must be false, presumably because it would be inconvenient for your political allies if not.
- incomingpain 3y agoI certainly googled the person's name. I'm not sure why you focus on this random person. Counterpoint, perhaps no censorship happened and I never heard of them because I never researched enough? It doesn't matter to me. I feel like you missed a great opportunity to explain why it's important to get vaccinated or get your flu shot. The fight over 'how dare those right wingers believe lies' is completely moot isn't it. We obviously don't believe it's lies, but boy those consequences to public health measures when we decide no more shots thanks.