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The work was done by IBM in 1975. You need lots of space to keep the noise down and you need offices with doors that close. Why are we still having this discus
by neilwilson 3y ago
The work was done by IBM in 1975. You need lots of space to keep the noise down and you need offices with doors that close.
Why are we still having this discussion fifty years later?
- pseudalopex 3y agoThe costs of offices are easier to quantify than the benefits.
- oblio 3y agoBecause in the short term it's cheaper to do other stuff. And ain't nobody going in between this year's bonus and executives.
- 2devnull 3y agoBecause we work in different ways now than we did in 1975? The work people do is also different. And, the people themselves have also changed. A person born in 1980s may be more used to 24/7 noise from tv and devices. A 30 year old worker in 1975 grew up in a quieter home.
- JohnFen 3y agoI don't think people and how they work are much different now than in 1975. I have no data, though. That would be an interesting study. Do you have data?
- 2devnull 3y agoI do. The data would be computer sales to businesses. The data indicates computer use is now a regular part of many jobs, whereas very few jobs in 1970 involved working on a computer, based on computer sales data.
- diyftw 3y agoThat generalization certainly doesn't fit with this 1977 edition human. The loudest 24/7 thing in my house is the compressor on my fridge. Silence (and office doors) are priceless.
- richardwhiuk 3y agoAren't you just reinforcing the point?
- diyftw 3y ago"A person born in 1980s may be more used to 24/7 noise" "1977 edition human" (born in 1977 for those who didn't grasp my turn-a-phrase. I hope that's close enough to 1980) And I'm not used to constant noise. So, no.
- 13rac1 3y agoYou may not recognize the difference, but our brains haven't evolved (nature) much in the last couple decades or probably centuries. There's little to no chance we have truly adapted (nurture) to this 24/7 noise, even plants have problems with it: https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/plants-are-adversely-affected-by-the-racket-of-urban-traffic/21807602 https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/plants-are-... -> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1439179122000081 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S143917912... > Plants in the traffic noise treatment group were exposed to 16 h of road traffic noise each day for a total of 15 days, while the control group was kept under complete silence. Traffic noise exposure led to significant decrease in growth indices of both plant species.
- 2devnull 3y agoHuman change does not require Darwinian selection. Look across cultures. That people might tolerate or be most comfortable in noisier environments could vary for non-heritable reasons. Some people like less stimulation, some more. Autism rates have changed faster than our genetics also.