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> It doesn't even pretend to present evidence beyond the fact that a journalist was killed in a war zone. While he was working on news coverage over a warzone,

by Qem 3y ago

> It doesn't even pretend to present evidence beyond the fact that a journalist was killed in a war zone. While he was working on news coverage over a warzone, the first attempt at his life was not while on duty. He was sitting with his family at home when it got bombed, killing everybody except him. In fact, many reporters were killed/maimed this way, not only while in duty, but while at home. For me that is pretty solid evidence of intentional targeting of journalists to avoid proper coverage of conflict.

jfengel 3y ago
Israel's entire assertion is that their real target is hiding among civilians. In such a war, there is no such thing as "off duty". To make his case he'd need something like a statistical model that reporters were more likely to be targeted than other civilians. Or be able to demonstrate that Israel did not believe that there were legitimate targets in the area. Or something. Just "I went to a war zone and got killed" isn't even pretending to be evidence. This war is shitty; everything about it is shitty. It's even shittier than other wars, which is really saying something. But just reiterating your preconceptions about who is worse than whom doesn't take in a direction that's less shitty.
- johnnyworker 3y ago
  > Israel's entire assertion is that their real target is hiding among civilians. That assertion doesn't hold water. https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1731772261848264771 https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/17317722618482647... https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1733066118330265727 https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/17330661183302657... It's not a war, it's genocide, and to call what you don't have the integrity to face the "preconception" of others is just rich. It doesn't matter "who is worse", it matters if your ally and/or the party you are directly materially supporting is committing genocide. Hamas isn't the standard, not being a Nazi is.

by Qem 3y ago

jfengel 3y ago

Israel's entire assertion is that their real target is hiding among civilians. In such a war, there is no such thing as "off duty". To make his case he'd need something like a statistical model that reporters were more likely to be targeted than other civilians. Or be able to demonstrate that Israel did not believe that there were legitimate targets in the area. Or something. Just "I went to a war zone and got killed" isn't even pretending to be evidence. This war is shitty; everything about it is shitty. It's even shittier than other wars, which is really saying something. But just reiterating your preconceptions about who is worse than whom doesn't take in a direction that's less shitty.

johnnyworker 3y ago
> Israel's entire assertion is that their real target is hiding among civilians. That assertion doesn't hold water. https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1731772261848264771 https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/17317722618482647... https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1733066118330265727 https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/17330661183302657... It's not a war, it's genocide, and to call what you don't have the integrity to face the "preconception" of others is just rich. It doesn't matter "who is worse", it matters if your ally and/or the party you are directly materially supporting is committing genocide. Hamas isn't the standard, not being a Nazi is.