but I am saying that even a lot of places where people think that is the case, it often isn't actually the case. Yup, one day someone was poking around our mes

but I am saying that even a lot of places where people think that is the case, it often isn't actually the case. Yup, one day someone was poking around our mess of over-engineered k8s web app ephemera, clicked a button, and realized we finally had a working Rails production console, albeit one in a web browser, without our tooling, and that would drop connectivity every 15 minutes. When this was discovered this was told to be all part of the plan… welcome to the spin zone.