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The idea of having to put anything on your bed and fiddling with adjustment knobs seems so wrong when there are plenty of printers out there that are good enoug

by starky 3y ago

The idea of having to put anything on your bed and fiddling with adjustment knobs seems so wrong when there are plenty of printers out there that are good enough now where I can send a print to them and maybe check on them in 10 minutes to make sure the first layer didn't fail and be confident that they will complete. From the very first time I used it I realized that ABL is a must on any printer now.

yreg 3y ago
Maybe if you don't care much about the budget. I don't need a printer and only use it sparingly, so I chose an Ender v2 for like 250€. It has bed-leveling problems, but it's not enough of an inconvenience to be worth it to me to cough up 3x of the money for Prusa. If all else fails I use a glue stick, like the GP. There's nothing wrong with that, it works.
- Mashimo 3y ago
  > Maybe if you don't care much about the budget. > I don't need a printer and only use it sparingly, so I chose an Ender v2 for like 250€. Now days you can get an Bambulab a1 mini for ~335 that has auto leveling, auto z offset, nozzle pressure sensor and can do a 14 minutes benchy. You can also get a Prusa mini is ~2 times the money of your Ender v2.
  - yreg 3y ago
    They both have smaller printable areas and +40%/+100% is still a pretty big price difference.
    - Mashimo 3y ago
      Sure sure, but you can care about budget and get a printer with decent sensors for auto z and bed level. I started with bed screws, and never want back to printer without probes or flexible bed sheet.
- starky 3y ago
  I struggled with the cheaply built printer that requires a lot of upkeep the first time like many (Tevo Tarantula in my case), and in the end I realized that between the upgrades to just make it work safely, and the time wasted just fiddling around with getting it to print made the Prusa well worth the money. Buy the Ender if you want working on 3D Printers to be your hobby, if you want 3D printing to be your hobby, then buy something actually reliable. I would take a small build volume and high reliability over something larger every single time.
  - yreg 3y ago
    > if you want working on 3D Printers to be your hobby, if you want 3D printing to be your hobby Those two go hand in hand for all hobbyists I know, including the Prusa owners. I don't struggle with Ender, actually I was surprised how good it is, since my reference point was much older (and much more expensive) printers. Maybe I have lucked out on the build quality, I don't know.
nirav72 3y ago
ABLs are nice to have and printers should have them. But every so often, a manual bed level with a piece of paper goes a long way. Especially if you have a budget friendly printer.

by starky 3y ago

yreg 3y ago

Maybe if you don't care much about the budget. I don't need a printer and only use it sparingly, so I chose an Ender v2 for like 250€. It has bed-leveling problems, but it's not enough of an inconvenience to be worth it to me to cough up 3x of the money for Prusa. If all else fails I use a glue stick, like the GP. There's nothing wrong with that, it works.

Mashimo 3y ago
> Maybe if you don't care much about the budget. > I don't need a printer and only use it sparingly, so I chose an Ender v2 for like 250€. Now days you can get an Bambulab a1 mini for ~335 that has auto leveling, auto z offset, nozzle pressure sensor and can do a 14 minutes benchy. You can also get a Prusa mini is ~2 times the money of your Ender v2.
- yreg 3y ago
  They both have smaller printable areas and +40%/+100% is still a pretty big price difference.
  - Mashimo 3y ago
    Sure sure, but you can care about budget and get a printer with decent sensors for auto z and bed level. I started with bed screws, and never want back to printer without probes or flexible bed sheet.
starky 3y ago
I struggled with the cheaply built printer that requires a lot of upkeep the first time like many (Tevo Tarantula in my case), and in the end I realized that between the upgrades to just make it work safely, and the time wasted just fiddling around with getting it to print made the Prusa well worth the money. Buy the Ender if you want working on 3D Printers to be your hobby, if you want 3D printing to be your hobby, then buy something actually reliable. I would take a small build volume and high reliability over something larger every single time.
- yreg 3y ago
  > if you want working on 3D Printers to be your hobby, if you want 3D printing to be your hobby Those two go hand in hand for all hobbyists I know, including the Prusa owners. I don't struggle with Ender, actually I was surprised how good it is, since my reference point was much older (and much more expensive) printers. Maybe I have lucked out on the build quality, I don't know.

nirav72 3y ago

ABLs are nice to have and printers should have them. But every so often, a manual bed level with a piece of paper goes a long way. Especially if you have a budget friendly printer.