> Hackers creating businesses to bring the benefits of their hacking to the world are the very foundation of YC who created and operate this site. I disagree.

> Hackers creating businesses to bring the benefits of their hacking to the world are the very foundation of YC who created and operate this site. I disagree. There is a clear line in many business from "cool hacking shit" to "cool/profitable business", but that hacker spirit is lost every single time. The "hacking spirit" is never about money either - see any 90s/00s movie about hacking, or any of the 80s/90s manifestos online. These aren't freedom fighters, trying to fight Goliath and bring messaging to the people. The original project they built on was. Beeper are profiteers, seeking to middle man some money. There nothing wrong with that - good on them - but that's hardly "hacker spirit".