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> The hacker spirit is about personal use. It's not expecting to be able to turn it into a business I reject this idea completely. The "hacker spirit" in no wa

> The hacker spirit is about personal use. It's not expecting to be able to turn it into a business I reject this idea completely. The "hacker spirit" in no way excludes doing business or making money. Hackers creating businesses to bring the benefits of their hacking to the world are the very foundation of YC who created and operate this site. > charging for a service using another’s infrastructure Beeper doesn't get any benefit from using Apple's infrastructure per se. The resource usage is trivial. If there was a way to go around Apple's infrastructure and communicate with Apple's iMessage users directly Beeper would be all over it and more than happy to replace all that "infrastructure" themselves at no cost to Apple. Apple has inserted themselves between their users and the world, making it impossible for anyone to send proper group or video messages to their unchangeable default messaging app without going through Apple. Beeper is simply doing the only thing that will work to fix Apple's intentional crippling of communication with Android for their own benefit.

fallat 3y ago
> Hackers creating businesses to bring the benefits of their hacking to the world are the very foundation of YC who created and operate this site. https://www.ycombinator.com/companies https://www.ycombinator.com/companies What hacking benefits are brought by the top 5 companies in this list?
averageRoyalty 3y ago
> Hackers creating businesses to bring the benefits of their hacking to the world are the very foundation of YC who created and operate this site. I disagree. There is a clear line in many business from "cool hacking shit" to "cool/profitable business", but that hacker spirit is lost every single time. The "hacking spirit" is never about money either - see any 90s/00s movie about hacking, or any of the 80s/90s manifestos online. These aren't freedom fighters, trying to fight Goliath and bring messaging to the people. The original project they built on was. Beeper are profiteers, seeking to middle man some money. There nothing wrong with that - good on them - but that's hardly "hacker spirit".

fallat 3y ago

> Hackers creating businesses to bring the benefits of their hacking to the world are the very foundation of YC who created and operate this site. https://www.ycombinator.com/companies https://www.ycombinator.com/companies What hacking benefits are brought by the top 5 companies in this list?

averageRoyalty 3y ago

> Hackers creating businesses to bring the benefits of their hacking to the world are the very foundation of YC who created and operate this site. I disagree. There is a clear line in many business from "cool hacking shit" to "cool/profitable business", but that hacker spirit is lost every single time. The "hacking spirit" is never about money either - see any 90s/00s movie about hacking, or any of the 80s/90s manifestos online. These aren't freedom fighters, trying to fight Goliath and bring messaging to the people. The original project they built on was. Beeper are profiteers, seeking to middle man some money. There nothing wrong with that - good on them - but that's hardly "hacker spirit".