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Google no longer seems relevant to anything much apart from what it’s already doing well… YouTube, search, android, maps.

tnecniv 3y ago
Waymo?
- somenameforme 3y ago
  Way too early IMO. Think about something like Google Fiber. It looked extremely promising, but the inability (or lack of desire) to expand it left it as mostly irrelevant. With Waymo they also have some major issues to work out as they're bleeding billions while charging as much, if not more, as human driven cars charge. It might end up getting worked out in the future and turned into something neat, or it might just eventually find itself on the ever-growing scrap-heap.
  - ShamelessC 3y ago
    aghem, Stadia, aghem
riku_iki 3y ago
> it’s already doing well > search many people disagree..
- geodel 3y ago
  It needs to be at least many hundred million disagree to matter.
  - riku_iki 3y ago
    > hundred million this is about how many people now going to ChatGPT while were going to Google year ago for similar searches
    - huytersd 3y ago
      At least in my experience, ChatGPT uses Bing a whole lot. I wonder what the stats for Bing usage are now compared to Google since ChatGPT has been out for a while.
resolutebat 3y ago
Can you provide some context about why this is relevant to the article, which posits that Google is uniquely positioned to win the AI space and hence the future of computing? The potential payoff, though, is astronomical: a world with Pixie everywhere means a world where Google makes real money from selling hardware, in addition to services for enterprises and schools, and cloud services that leverage Google’s infrastructure to provide the same capabilities to businesses. Moreover, it’s a world where Google is truly integrated: the company already makes the chips, in both its phones and its data centers, it makes the models, and it does it all with the largest collection of data in the world.
- andrewstuart 3y ago
  Because Google has burned it’s good will by cancelling so many projects. Yet another new Google project is simply met with “ok, but when will it be canceled”.
- HarHarVeryFunny 3y ago
  But it doesn't seem to be true - there's more of a moat around search than AI it seems, and the recent trend is people replacing the Google search app on their phones with Perplexity.ai. You currently still need search too, for AI's to access data newer than their training set, but I wonder how that's going to evolve over time ... Could see AI's being updated increasingly frequently and tapping direct into news sources (not via search) for news/sports/etc.
- frankgrimesjr 3y ago
  I don't know enough about the AI space to comment on it specifically. But this distinctly reminds me about articles around about the time of the first iPhone release which posited that Microsoft was in a unique position to ultimately win the smartphone market. After all it was dominant on the desktop and Windows Mobile already had a decent (albeit not dominant) marketshare in smartphones at the time.
  - kccqzy 3y ago
    The theory wasn't wrong and still isn't wrong. The problem is in the execution.
huytersd 3y ago
Chrome, gmail, google docs/sheets, google meet, google drive, cloud, pixel, chrome book, nest, fiber, waymo

tnecniv 3y ago

Waymo?

somenameforme 3y ago
Way too early IMO. Think about something like Google Fiber. It looked extremely promising, but the inability (or lack of desire) to expand it left it as mostly irrelevant. With Waymo they also have some major issues to work out as they're bleeding billions while charging as much, if not more, as human driven cars charge. It might end up getting worked out in the future and turned into something neat, or it might just eventually find itself on the ever-growing scrap-heap.
- ShamelessC 3y ago
  aghem, Stadia, aghem

riku_iki 3y ago

> it’s already doing well > search many people disagree..

geodel 3y ago
It needs to be at least many hundred million disagree to matter.
- riku_iki 3y ago
  > hundred million this is about how many people now going to ChatGPT while were going to Google year ago for similar searches
  - huytersd 3y ago
    At least in my experience, ChatGPT uses Bing a whole lot. I wonder what the stats for Bing usage are now compared to Google since ChatGPT has been out for a while.

resolutebat 3y ago

Can you provide some context about why this is relevant to the article, which posits that Google is uniquely positioned to win the AI space and hence the future of computing? The potential payoff, though, is astronomical: a world with Pixie everywhere means a world where Google makes real money from selling hardware, in addition to services for enterprises and schools, and cloud services that leverage Google’s infrastructure to provide the same capabilities to businesses. Moreover, it’s a world where Google is truly integrated: the company already makes the chips, in both its phones and its data centers, it makes the models, and it does it all with the largest collection of data in the world.

andrewstuart 3y ago
Because Google has burned it’s good will by cancelling so many projects. Yet another new Google project is simply met with “ok, but when will it be canceled”.
HarHarVeryFunny 3y ago
But it doesn't seem to be true - there's more of a moat around search than AI it seems, and the recent trend is people replacing the Google search app on their phones with Perplexity.ai. You currently still need search too, for AI's to access data newer than their training set, but I wonder how that's going to evolve over time ... Could see AI's being updated increasingly frequently and tapping direct into news sources (not via search) for news/sports/etc.
frankgrimesjr 3y ago
I don't know enough about the AI space to comment on it specifically. But this distinctly reminds me about articles around about the time of the first iPhone release which posited that Microsoft was in a unique position to ultimately win the smartphone market. After all it was dominant on the desktop and Windows Mobile already had a decent (albeit not dominant) marketshare in smartphones at the time.
- kccqzy 3y ago
  The theory wasn't wrong and still isn't wrong. The problem is in the execution.

huytersd 3y ago

Chrome, gmail, google docs/sheets, google meet, google drive, cloud, pixel, chrome book, nest, fiber, waymo