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This is true of all "intellectual" "property"

mort96 3y ago
There is some nuance here. I like trademarks which disallow other companies than Apple from selling products called “Apple Watch” or other companies than Samsung from selling “Samsung Galaxy S” series phones. And I like that if I make a piece of music or some art or whatever, some giant company can’t just grab that and use it for profit without making some arrangement with me. But intellectual property goes way too far.
- lijok 3y ago
  > And I like that if I make a piece of music or some art or whatever, some giant company can’t just grab that and use it for profit without making some arrangement with me. You’re describing intellectual property..
  - mort96 3y ago
    I know, that was the point.
- Zambyte 3y ago
  I carefully and intentionally included trademark. And copyright. > I like trademarks which disallow other companies than Apple from selling products called “Apple Watch” or other companies than Samsung from selling “Samsung Galaxy S” series phones. Why? It only serves companies to help them become larger companies. If you think it helps customers understand what they're buying, consider: customers are basically oblivious to what they are buying when it comes to technology. If that's actually the problem you want to solve, the solutiom to that is "technology nutrition facts" and spec sheets by law, not trademark. > And I like that if I make a piece of music or some art or whatever, some giant company can’t just grab that and use it for profit without making some arrangement with me. What're you going to do about it if they do? Sue Disney? Doesn't seem like you'll get a lot out of that. Bonus points for additionally eliminating propriety software at the same time.
  - mort96 3y ago
    I don't know dude, I sometimes know what product I wanna buy and I enjoy that I can more or less trust that among reputable stores, a product carrying the name and logo of the product I wanna buy is the product I wanna buy.
    - Zambyte 3y ago
      > I sometimes know what product I wanna buy and I enjoy that I can more or less trust that among reputable stores That's fair. You can have all of that without trademark or copyright though. > a product carrying the name and logo of the product I wanna buy is the product I wanna buy. Lots of products can carry the name and logo of the product you want to buy without trademark :) Maybe there is something besides the logo that you're more interested in?

There is some nuance here. I like trademarks which disallow other companies than Apple from selling products called “Apple Watch” or other companies than Samsung from selling “Samsung Galaxy S” series phones. And I like that if I make a piece of music or some art or whatever, some giant company can’t just grab that and use it for profit without making some arrangement with me. But intellectual property goes way too far.

lijok 3y ago
> And I like that if I make a piece of music or some art or whatever, some giant company can’t just grab that and use it for profit without making some arrangement with me. You’re describing intellectual property..
- mort96 3y ago
  I know, that was the point.
Zambyte 3y ago
I carefully and intentionally included trademark. And copyright. > I like trademarks which disallow other companies than Apple from selling products called “Apple Watch” or other companies than Samsung from selling “Samsung Galaxy S” series phones. Why? It only serves companies to help them become larger companies. If you think it helps customers understand what they're buying, consider: customers are basically oblivious to what they are buying when it comes to technology. If that's actually the problem you want to solve, the solutiom to that is "technology nutrition facts" and spec sheets by law, not trademark. > And I like that if I make a piece of music or some art or whatever, some giant company can’t just grab that and use it for profit without making some arrangement with me. What're you going to do about it if they do? Sue Disney? Doesn't seem like you'll get a lot out of that. Bonus points for additionally eliminating propriety software at the same time.
- mort96 3y ago
  I don't know dude, I sometimes know what product I wanna buy and I enjoy that I can more or less trust that among reputable stores, a product carrying the name and logo of the product I wanna buy is the product I wanna buy.
  - Zambyte 3y ago
    > I sometimes know what product I wanna buy and I enjoy that I can more or less trust that among reputable stores That's fair. You can have all of that without trademark or copyright though. > a product carrying the name and logo of the product I wanna buy is the product I wanna buy. Lots of products can carry the name and logo of the product you want to buy without trademark :) Maybe there is something besides the logo that you're more interested in?