> You need to stub it out on something first and often the convenient way to do that is to put it on the ground and grind it with your shoe. Takes about 3 seco

> You need to stub it out on something first and often the convenient way to do that is to put it on the ground and grind it with your shoe. Takes about 3 seconds for me to roll the cigarette with two fingers right there by the cherry and squeeze a little bit and pop it right out. Shoe is way too much work.