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> but surely most of them never would have used XMPP in the first place. There was a time that Facebook messenger was XMPP and Google chat was XMPP, so there w
by indymike 3y ago
> but surely most of them never would have used XMPP in the first place.
There was a time that Facebook messenger was XMPP and Google chat was XMPP, so there was a time it was gaining a lot of traction. Most people just think their email is email. They don't see it as using SMTP/IMAP/POP3.
- RF_Savage 3y agoWhatsApp was also XMPP and I had friends using it with 3rd pary clients.
- apitman 3y agoI guess what I'm asking is was adoption by big tech a net negative? If you add 50 million users then take away 50 million users, then maybe no harm done. Unless there were other effects as well.
- webmaven 3y agoGaining then losing 50m users is a net negative in a world where "line goes up and to the right" (ie. momentum) is the most basic heuristic for assessing the viability of a platform (and especially so for social platforms where the users create the content). The only way that negative effect is muted is if the 50m users is only a small fraction of the platform's reach. Say, under 2%.
- indymike 3y agoThis was a classic play where big tech used XMPP to grow their user base, but as users changed left to escape various paper cuts (ads in the UI, lack of utility, etc...), big tech realized they could not force people to stay on their platform. So, big tech does what it does when it has more to lose than gain - it went closed.