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I like how the author scoffs at this as if it is self-evidently preposterous, Have you used gmail lately? The new UI is a mess.

by bdunbar 15y ago

there 15y ago
Android 4, too. I think their shift to using only icons everywhere (in Android and their websites) was terrible. I have no idea what most of the icons are supposed to do until I tap them, which is a terrible way of navigating an interface.
- mistercow 15y ago
  >I have no idea what most of the icons are supposed to do until I tap them, which is a terrible way of navigating an interface. Is that such a terrible way for things to be though? To me, a well designed interface is one that invites you to play with it and learn its ins and outs, while making the experience memorable so that you'll find your way more easily in the future. It's best for the interface to be informative while doing this, but if you spray text all over everything, it does impede exploration.
wlesieutre 15y ago
They added a preference to get text in the buttons instead of the cryptic icons, which is a huge usability improvement. I still don't like it as much as the old gmail.
- bdunbar 15y ago
  They added a preference to get text in the buttons I hadn't realized - thanks. It makes a difference. I still want the old look back.
sb 15y ago
In addition, I think they completely failed with the HD themes, too. Some of them have such a contrast difference that you cannot even read label captions anymore, i.e., the complete left part below the Inbox becomes essentially useless...
mistercow 15y ago
I'd argue that it's less of a mess than Mail.app in Lion.
- bdunbar 15y ago
  Dunno - I'm still using 10.6. I don't have anything _against_ Lion, just that I hate upgrading unless I really need to.
- fromhet 15y ago
  Well, it's just like jwz's rant on FF vs Safari. Mail.app is not as good, no doubt about it. It lacks almost everything a mail client should be able to do. But it works, does it's job quickly and easily and then is out of my way. I wish Thunderbird was the same way, but it just isnt.

I like how the author scoffs at this as if it is self-evidently preposterous, Have you used gmail lately? The new UI is a mess.

by bdunbar 15y ago

I like how the author scoffs at this as if it is self-evidently preposterous, Have you used gmail lately? The new UI is a mess.

there 15y ago

Android 4, too. I think their shift to using only icons everywhere (in Android and their websites) was terrible. I have no idea what most of the icons are supposed to do until I tap them, which is a terrible way of navigating an interface.

mistercow 15y ago
>I have no idea what most of the icons are supposed to do until I tap them, which is a terrible way of navigating an interface. Is that such a terrible way for things to be though? To me, a well designed interface is one that invites you to play with it and learn its ins and outs, while making the experience memorable so that you'll find your way more easily in the future. It's best for the interface to be informative while doing this, but if you spray text all over everything, it does impede exploration.

wlesieutre 15y ago

They added a preference to get text in the buttons instead of the cryptic icons, which is a huge usability improvement. I still don't like it as much as the old gmail.

bdunbar 15y ago
They added a preference to get text in the buttons I hadn't realized - thanks. It makes a difference. I still want the old look back.

sb 15y ago

In addition, I think they completely failed with the HD themes, too. Some of them have such a contrast difference that you cannot even read label captions anymore, i.e., the complete left part below the Inbox becomes essentially useless...

mistercow 15y ago

I'd argue that it's less of a mess than Mail.app in Lion.

bdunbar 15y ago
Dunno - I'm still using 10.6. I don't have anything _against_ Lion, just that I hate upgrading unless I really need to.
fromhet 15y ago
Well, it's just like jwz's rant on FF vs Safari. Mail.app is not as good, no doubt about it. It lacks almost everything a mail client should be able to do. But it works, does it's job quickly and easily and then is out of my way. I wish Thunderbird was the same way, but it just isnt.