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It's bizarre that this guy doesn't use tabs. Oh well, to each his own. I use Safari instead of Firefox because the swipe gesture to go forward and back works s

It's bizarre that this guy doesn't use tabs. Oh well, to each his own. I use Safari instead of Firefox because the swipe gesture to go forward and back works so much better. I love that I can swipe away half the page, get a peek at what I'm going back (or forward) to and then return to the page I was on without triggering a reload or anything happending. It breaks some sites a little bit (GitHub especially) but it looks cool on most of the Internet so I'm fine with it.

read_wharf 15y ago
He's using something tab-like, the task bar or whatever it's called on Mac. I use my (linux) task bar to see my separate apps (like everyone does), with sub-"apps" in Firefox tabs. His "tabs" are just migrated up to his task bar as separate instances of Safari. Same thing, different implementation. They both bookmark locations of concentration. The difference is that, on the Mac, for jwz, it works well with Safari and not with Firefox.
- hollerith 15y ago
  Actually, his "tabs" are just migrated up to the "Window" menu of Safari since there is no bar or anything that allows you to switch between windows of a single app. (The Dock, unlike the task bar in Gnome 2 or Windows, only lets you switch between apps.) You can also switch between windows with the Command-backspace key and with Expose (if you are on Leopard or Snow Leopard) or Mission Control (if you are on Lion), but those are pretty lame IMHO. >The difference is that, on the Mac, for jwz, it works well with Safari and not with Firefox. Not true: on the Mac, switching between the windows of Firefox works the same way as switching between the windows of Safari.
shabble 15y ago
There is a school of thought that prefers applications to delegate their window handling duties to the window manager, in order to have consistent behaviour across applications. In that case, both MDI and tabbed UIs remove the capability of the WM to manage that specific rectangle of content, and require you to use in-app controls, which may not even exist. This is especially pronounced for those who use non-standard window managers, say Ion or Awesome window manager which let you tile new windows rather than having them appear whereever they choose. Dunno if that's jwz's reason, but it's one good reason that I've had in the past (although not for browsers, the number of tabs I keep grows too rapidly to manage nicely alongside long-lived windows)
- fusiongyro 15y ago
  I'd be shocked, since he's using a Mac for its UI and extolling its virtues. I'm not aware of a way to swap out the Mac WM for another one.
  - shabble 15y ago
    That's a good point actually. I'm in the opposite camp just now - I'm on a mac, but I'd quite like a way to alter the WM behaviour for some apps. The Apple 'our way is best' approach is often great, but when it fails, you're stuck without easy (or even hard) ways of fixing it.

read_wharf 15y ago

He's using something tab-like, the task bar or whatever it's called on Mac. I use my (linux) task bar to see my separate apps (like everyone does), with sub-"apps" in Firefox tabs. His "tabs" are just migrated up to his task bar as separate instances of Safari. Same thing, different implementation. They both bookmark locations of concentration. The difference is that, on the Mac, for jwz, it works well with Safari and not with Firefox.

hollerith 15y ago
Actually, his "tabs" are just migrated up to the "Window" menu of Safari since there is no bar or anything that allows you to switch between windows of a single app. (The Dock, unlike the task bar in Gnome 2 or Windows, only lets you switch between apps.) You can also switch between windows with the Command-backspace key and with Expose (if you are on Leopard or Snow Leopard) or Mission Control (if you are on Lion), but those are pretty lame IMHO. >The difference is that, on the Mac, for jwz, it works well with Safari and not with Firefox. Not true: on the Mac, switching between the windows of Firefox works the same way as switching between the windows of Safari.

shabble 15y ago

There is a school of thought that prefers applications to delegate their window handling duties to the window manager, in order to have consistent behaviour across applications. In that case, both MDI and tabbed UIs remove the capability of the WM to manage that specific rectangle of content, and require you to use in-app controls, which may not even exist. This is especially pronounced for those who use non-standard window managers, say Ion or Awesome window manager which let you tile new windows rather than having them appear whereever they choose. Dunno if that's jwz's reason, but it's one good reason that I've had in the past (although not for browsers, the number of tabs I keep grows too rapidly to manage nicely alongside long-lived windows)

fusiongyro 15y ago
I'd be shocked, since he's using a Mac for its UI and extolling its virtues. I'm not aware of a way to swap out the Mac WM for another one.
- shabble 15y ago
  That's a good point actually. I'm in the opposite camp just now - I'm on a mac, but I'd quite like a way to alter the WM behaviour for some apps. The Apple 'our way is best' approach is often great, but when it fails, you're stuck without easy (or even hard) ways of fixing it.