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I hope cell providers get the option to bundle a secure messaging service that's compatible with all of their customer's devices. Right now a Verizon iPhone cu

I hope cell providers get the option to bundle a secure messaging service that's compatible with all of their customer's devices. Right now a Verizon iPhone customer can't securely send a message to a Verizon Android customer without forcing their customer to download a third-party app and agree to its terms, and the carrier has no recourse to change that on their iOS devices they are selling to their customers. Vaguely reminds me a little bit of the web browser antitrust days. Regulators will catch up soon. At least Apple is planning to adopt RCS finally, even though they missed their chance to be part of the formation of the standard. Edit: Or Apple could release iMessage for Android and for web.

Khaine 3y ago
Carriers created RCS which is insecure. I don't think carriers care.
- iAMkenough 3y ago
  Apple had a chance to participate in the foundation of RCS and passed on it. Now according to their legal counsel they have to adopt it.
fn-mote 3y ago
> carrier has no recourse to change that on their iOS devices they are selling to their customers. And thank goodness... I can only imagine the resulting flood: (1) ads in your messaging app; and (2) messages being scanned for targeted advertising (by the "less scrupulous", of course).
- iAMkenough 3y ago
  If 1 and 2 happen, that might motivate Apple to implement a secure open standard that bypasses the carrier solution to "all of our customers can securely text each other with just their phone number." Apple will call it an innovation and sell the hell out of it.
junofan 3y ago
> the carrier has no recourse to change that on their iOS devices they are selling to their customers They can just not sell those devices? I find this argument pretty twisted. It’s also based on a false premise. Verizon is also free to implement whatever they want on top of their @vtext.com endpoint.
- iAMkenough 3y ago
  If they stopped selling iPhones (lol), what would they do for all of their current iPhone customers? Boot them off until they trade-in for an Android phone? How is the @vtext.com endpoint any more secure than MMS? Default, secure transfer using your carrier phone number through the built-in messaging app on Verizon iOS devices is restricted only to Apple's servers, and the recipients MUST be Apple users.

Khaine 3y ago

Carriers created RCS which is insecure. I don't think carriers care.

iAMkenough 3y ago
Apple had a chance to participate in the foundation of RCS and passed on it. Now according to their legal counsel they have to adopt it.

fn-mote 3y ago

> carrier has no recourse to change that on their iOS devices they are selling to their customers. And thank goodness... I can only imagine the resulting flood: (1) ads in your messaging app; and (2) messages being scanned for targeted advertising (by the "less scrupulous", of course).

iAMkenough 3y ago
If 1 and 2 happen, that might motivate Apple to implement a secure open standard that bypasses the carrier solution to "all of our customers can securely text each other with just their phone number." Apple will call it an innovation and sell the hell out of it.

junofan 3y ago

> the carrier has no recourse to change that on their iOS devices they are selling to their customers They can just not sell those devices? I find this argument pretty twisted. It’s also based on a false premise. Verizon is also free to implement whatever they want on top of their @vtext.com endpoint.

iAMkenough 3y ago
If they stopped selling iPhones (lol), what would they do for all of their current iPhone customers? Boot them off until they trade-in for an Android phone? How is the @vtext.com endpoint any more secure than MMS? Default, secure transfer using your carrier phone number through the built-in messaging app on Verizon iOS devices is restricted only to Apple's servers, and the recipients MUST be Apple users.