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What for? He didn't deliver Model S, Model 3, Model X, Model Y and Cybertruck, Starlink and SpaceX launches? Is this all a dream?

AlexandrB 3y ago
FSD promises such as smart summon across the US and robot taxis that make you money. Then there's the fast battery change stations that never showed up. There are plenty of other examples Oh and "funding secured", of course. Nikola's tech demos were fundamentally dishonest, but were they that much worse than the 2016 FSD demo[1]? [1] https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/17/tesla-engineer-testifies-that-2016-video-promoting-self-driving-was-faked/ https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/17/tesla-engineer-testifies-t...
- jojobas 3y ago
  Something something boring company, hyperloop, point to point rocket travel, 3x battery roadster, no financial sense not to buy a Tesla semi.
- HumblyTossed 3y ago
  FSD is the big one. This guy was literally selling people cars that could drive themselves. But they couldn't, can't and likely never will.
Zigurd 3y ago
He told customers their cars were equipped with computers that would enable them to be robotaxis and make money for their owners. He accepted payment for a non-working "Full Self Driving" product.
- unixhero 3y ago
  Okay. Yeah that was wrong. They ought to have rather invested in the Tesla stock than order anything. Financial markets are more lenient towards half truths and essentially lying, than consumers are.
  - Zigurd 3y ago
    It isn't just wrong. It's a liability overhanging a lot of Tesla's cash. It also illustrates a pattern of pumping the stock price which reached $400 before a little bit of reality returned. Now you don't hear about how your Tesla will make money while you sleep, and Teslabot is the new premise for why Tesla is worth 10X BMW
kube-system 3y ago
Tesla has not delivered a vehicle that can drive itself. All of them require human drivers at all times.

AlexandrB 3y ago

FSD promises such as smart summon across the US and robot taxis that make you money. Then there's the fast battery change stations that never showed up. There are plenty of other examples Oh and "funding secured", of course. Nikola's tech demos were fundamentally dishonest, but were they that much worse than the 2016 FSD demo[1]? [1] https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/17/tesla-engineer-testifies-that-2016-video-promoting-self-driving-was-faked/ https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/17/tesla-engineer-testifies-t...

jojobas 3y ago
Something something boring company, hyperloop, point to point rocket travel, 3x battery roadster, no financial sense not to buy a Tesla semi.
HumblyTossed 3y ago
FSD is the big one. This guy was literally selling people cars that could drive themselves. But they couldn't, can't and likely never will.

Zigurd 3y ago

He told customers their cars were equipped with computers that would enable them to be robotaxis and make money for their owners. He accepted payment for a non-working "Full Self Driving" product.

unixhero 3y ago
Okay. Yeah that was wrong. They ought to have rather invested in the Tesla stock than order anything. Financial markets are more lenient towards half truths and essentially lying, than consumers are.
- Zigurd 3y ago
  It isn't just wrong. It's a liability overhanging a lot of Tesla's cash. It also illustrates a pattern of pumping the stock price which reached $400 before a little bit of reality returned. Now you don't hear about how your Tesla will make money while you sleep, and Teslabot is the new premise for why Tesla is worth 10X BMW

kube-system 3y ago

Tesla has not delivered a vehicle that can drive itself. All of them require human drivers at all times.