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I admire what you're doing! Ukraine still stands because of you and people like you. Be sure, that despite having a destroyed house and maintaining Wasm3 I'm s

I admire what you're doing! Ukraine still stands because of you and people like you. Be sure, that despite having a destroyed house and maintaining Wasm3 I'm still resourceful enough to: - donate money - donate skills - coordinate multiple mil-tech research groups - run own business - raise 2 kids - ... Cheers!

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medo-bear 3y ago
How about the avarage Ukranian? How is their leisure time spent?
- vshymanskyy 3y ago
  Hard to tell. It's a full (and dynamic) range. In general the life is mostly the same. Except we need to hide from missiles and drones, help UAF. Some of us have an additional burden of killіng the russkies ;) Oh, we also need to know the location of the closest nuclear shelter.
  - medo-bear 3y ago
    In my country we have alot of male Ukranians who have come to escape conscription. The attitude they have to the war is not very romantic. One of the companies I contract for has developers in Ukraine who are constanly hiding from conscription (ie changing location within Ukraine) because leaving now is too risky. So I wonder how does a person who is engaged in the war effort (you do military tech research) see this
    - vshymanskyy 3y ago
      I see it similarly. It's not easy, both for refugees and those who are still here in Ukraine. However, everyone has a unique story and reasons to see it in a specific light. I know a LOT of people who are hiding, and at the same are doing everything they can, donate and develop high-tech stuff for UAF. The world isn't black/white, however, we know for sure that we MUST do everything so that the russia is stopped and this happens "never again".
      - medo-bear 3y ago
        Thanks for responding. It is interesting that you work for the armed forces yet are aware of people who are hiding from conscription. Having experienced war I am aware how senseless it can become. People do not realize how terrible war can be, regardless of whose side you are on. Conscription is also a tool that is often used to get rid of undesireable people (ethnic minorities, opposition, etc). In my opinion forced conscription should be a war crime.
        skinkestek 3y ago
        Forced conscription is the sad reality for many countries. I was conscripted. I see it as my duty, a part of my social contract, a way to pay back to generations before who put their lives on the line in the fights for freedom. I was lucky it was peacetime, but I am fully convinced I would have gone anyway as a young person without responsibility for children and citizen of a country worth fighting for. For me (again as someone who served in peacetime in a peaceful country) it has been both educational and a career booster at points, it seems around here there are (civilian) jobs were military experience, even just conscription, is seen as a a major advantage or even a requirement.
        medo-bear 3y ago
        What about someone that does not feel very "in debt"? Anyway by 'forced conscription' I mean mainly being forced to pick up a weapon and placed into a situation of kill or be killed by someone who was also put into that same situation by the opposing side
        vshymanskyy 3y ago
        You're comparing "both sides" as equal, however please consider that this is an unprovoked agression against Ukraine. Russians invaded the foreign territory and are killing and torturing civilians. On day 2, they sent dozens of mobile crematoriums towards my city. Yes, they were prepared to burn "non-conformist" civilians. Ukrainians, on the other hand, just don't want to be wiped out.

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medo-bear 3y ago

How about the avarage Ukranian? How is their leisure time spent?

vshymanskyy 3y ago
Hard to tell. It's a full (and dynamic) range. In general the life is mostly the same. Except we need to hide from missiles and drones, help UAF. Some of us have an additional burden of killіng the russkies ;) Oh, we also need to know the location of the closest nuclear shelter.
- medo-bear 3y ago
  In my country we have alot of male Ukranians who have come to escape conscription. The attitude they have to the war is not very romantic. One of the companies I contract for has developers in Ukraine who are constanly hiding from conscription (ie changing location within Ukraine) because leaving now is too risky. So I wonder how does a person who is engaged in the war effort (you do military tech research) see this
  - vshymanskyy 3y ago
    I see it similarly. It's not easy, both for refugees and those who are still here in Ukraine. However, everyone has a unique story and reasons to see it in a specific light. I know a LOT of people who are hiding, and at the same are doing everything they can, donate and develop high-tech stuff for UAF. The world isn't black/white, however, we know for sure that we MUST do everything so that the russia is stopped and this happens "never again".
    - medo-bear 3y ago
      Thanks for responding. It is interesting that you work for the armed forces yet are aware of people who are hiding from conscription. Having experienced war I am aware how senseless it can become. People do not realize how terrible war can be, regardless of whose side you are on. Conscription is also a tool that is often used to get rid of undesireable people (ethnic minorities, opposition, etc). In my opinion forced conscription should be a war crime.
      - skinkestek 3y ago
        Forced conscription is the sad reality for many countries. I was conscripted. I see it as my duty, a part of my social contract, a way to pay back to generations before who put their lives on the line in the fights for freedom. I was lucky it was peacetime, but I am fully convinced I would have gone anyway as a young person without responsibility for children and citizen of a country worth fighting for. For me (again as someone who served in peacetime in a peaceful country) it has been both educational and a career booster at points, it seems around here there are (civilian) jobs were military experience, even just conscription, is seen as a a major advantage or even a requirement.
        medo-bear 3y ago
        What about someone that does not feel very "in debt"? Anyway by 'forced conscription' I mean mainly being forced to pick up a weapon and placed into a situation of kill or be killed by someone who was also put into that same situation by the opposing side
        vshymanskyy 3y ago
        You're comparing "both sides" as equal, however please consider that this is an unprovoked agression against Ukraine. Russians invaded the foreign territory and are killing and torturing civilians. On day 2, they sent dozens of mobile crematoriums towards my city. Yes, they were prepared to burn "non-conformist" civilians. Ukrainians, on the other hand, just don't want to be wiped out.