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I'm confused at the overwhelming hostility on Hacker News, of all places. Don't you guys like technology? These guys are pushing back on outsiders setting arbit

by 5040 3y ago

I'm confused at the overwhelming hostility on Hacker News, of all places. Don't you guys like technology? These guys are pushing back on outsiders setting arbitrary limits on technological progress. Do you guys really think American politicians are competent enough to micromanage the development of novel technologies?

malermeister 3y ago
I like technology. I don't like neofascists using it to further and further tighten their grip on power and undermine our democratic institutions.
- nickpp 3y ago
  How exactly are “neofascists using technology to further and further tighten their grip on power and undermine our democratic institutions”?!
  - malermeister 3y ago
    Uber is fundamentally a technological way of circumventing labor protections. Airbnb, same thing, but instead manipulating housing stock, causing affordability crises around the world. Crypto is an attempt to take away monetary policy from democratically elected governments. Twitter is a billionaire's tool to amplify far-right voices while censoring anti-billionaire sentiment. These are just the most obvious examples. But it's not only my personal opinions - Andreessen recently wrote a manifesto in which he cited the co-author of the fascist manifesto as one of his "patron saints".
    - nickpp 3y ago
      None of your examples have anything to do with fascism. You sound like Putin saying Ukrainians are Nazi because they vote for the west, reject his occupation and fight for their land. What?!
      - malermeister 3y ago
        Literally writing a manifesto inspired by the fascist manifesto doesn't have anything to do with fascism?
        nickpp 3y ago
        > a manifesto inspired by the fascist manifesto This is literally not true.
tech_ken 3y ago
> These guys are pushing back on outsiders setting arbitrary limits on technological progress. I think the reason a lot of us dislike e/acc is that they are also pushing back on insiders setting extremely prudent and well-reasoned limits on the negative externalities technocapitalists can unload on the rest of us.

by 5040 3y ago

malermeister 3y ago

I like technology. I don't like neofascists using it to further and further tighten their grip on power and undermine our democratic institutions.

nickpp 3y ago
How exactly are “neofascists using technology to further and further tighten their grip on power and undermine our democratic institutions”?!
- malermeister 3y ago
  Uber is fundamentally a technological way of circumventing labor protections. Airbnb, same thing, but instead manipulating housing stock, causing affordability crises around the world. Crypto is an attempt to take away monetary policy from democratically elected governments. Twitter is a billionaire's tool to amplify far-right voices while censoring anti-billionaire sentiment. These are just the most obvious examples. But it's not only my personal opinions - Andreessen recently wrote a manifesto in which he cited the co-author of the fascist manifesto as one of his "patron saints".
  - nickpp 3y ago
    None of your examples have anything to do with fascism. You sound like Putin saying Ukrainians are Nazi because they vote for the west, reject his occupation and fight for their land. What?!
    - malermeister 3y ago
      Literally writing a manifesto inspired by the fascist manifesto doesn't have anything to do with fascism?
      - nickpp 3y ago
        > a manifesto inspired by the fascist manifesto This is literally not true.

tech_ken 3y ago

> These guys are pushing back on outsiders setting arbitrary limits on technological progress. I think the reason a lot of us dislike e/acc is that they are also pushing back on insiders setting extremely prudent and well-reasoned limits on the negative externalities technocapitalists can unload on the rest of us.