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This was one of the most obvious outcomes anyone could have and should have predicted. Even when people know an image is fake, it still seems to be able to sway

This was one of the most obvious outcomes anyone could have and should have predicted. Even when people know an image is fake, it still seems to be able to sway them. The effect we've seen over the past few years is simply likely to become worse: more polarization, more extremism, more inter-group hostility, and more BS online.

xg15 3y ago
You have to put this into context though. Think of all the Roko's Basilisk believers who finally can have a full night's sleep again. /s
RecycledEle 3y ago
> Even when people know an image is fake, it still seems to be able to sway them. Yes, this has been happening for a long time. This is why fiction literature exists. If images we know are fake could not move our emotions, nobody would have ever laughed at a cartoon.
- evan_ 3y ago
  Not analogous. The original woodcarving is fiction- a person created a representation of a dog. The AI clones are a fiction of a fiction.
- int_19h 3y ago
  I don't think OP meant "sway" in that sense. One thing that I'm increasingly seeing is when you point a fake out to a person, and they just shrug and say, "okay, so this one was fake, but it's still a good illustration of how things are in general, so what's the problem?".
  - coffeecantcode 3y ago
    The same argument being made when you tell them certain apps that they use are full of spyware: “Okay, I don’t care, I have nothing to hide.”
  - everdrive 3y ago
    Thanks for the clarification here -- this precisely what I meant. You put it very well.
2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
Even when people know that things are ads they are influenced by them. The BS works for the same reason that ads work. It's like humans experience something (see an ad) and it makes them feel something (ad uses cute dog) and they remember that feeling the next time they see that brand/ad/initial stimuli. Like seeing something triggers a mini-replay in the brain.
- frumper 3y ago
  Those ads are also filled with trickery to show a false idea of what something is really like. Things like photoshopped models, auto-tuning, filters, painting food to look a certain way, sound fx being added. The list is nearly endless.

xg15 3y ago

You have to put this into context though. Think of all the Roko's Basilisk believers who finally can have a full night's sleep again. /s

RecycledEle 3y ago

> Even when people know an image is fake, it still seems to be able to sway them. Yes, this has been happening for a long time. This is why fiction literature exists. If images we know are fake could not move our emotions, nobody would have ever laughed at a cartoon.

evan_ 3y ago
Not analogous. The original woodcarving is fiction- a person created a representation of a dog. The AI clones are a fiction of a fiction.
int_19h 3y ago
I don't think OP meant "sway" in that sense. One thing that I'm increasingly seeing is when you point a fake out to a person, and they just shrug and say, "okay, so this one was fake, but it's still a good illustration of how things are in general, so what's the problem?".
- coffeecantcode 3y ago
  The same argument being made when you tell them certain apps that they use are full of spyware: “Okay, I don’t care, I have nothing to hide.”
- everdrive 3y ago
  Thanks for the clarification here -- this precisely what I meant. You put it very well.

2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago

Even when people know that things are ads they are influenced by them. The BS works for the same reason that ads work. It's like humans experience something (see an ad) and it makes them feel something (ad uses cute dog) and they remember that feeling the next time they see that brand/ad/initial stimuli. Like seeing something triggers a mini-replay in the brain.

frumper 3y ago
Those ads are also filled with trickery to show a false idea of what something is really like. Things like photoshopped models, auto-tuning, filters, painting food to look a certain way, sound fx being added. The list is nearly endless.