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Twitter is chock full of accounts like Jackson Hinkle and Syrian Girl (two of the most prominent) who post lie after lie after lie in favor of Hamas. Just an en

Twitter is chock full of accounts like Jackson Hinkle and Syrian Girl (two of the most prominent) who post lie after lie after lie in favor of Hamas. Just an endless stream of claims that have been proven wrong. TikTok and Instagram, without moderation like a community note feature, is far worse at this. Whenever talking to someone who is “critical of Israel” (who isn’t critical of that government? That’s not the point!) they use this line of defense despite leaving no room for criticism of their own extremely flawed and manipulative sources.

lupusreal 3y ago
Twitter is also chock full of Zionists who lie. But there's little basis to say that either camp of liars is responsible for the lionshare of support either side has.
- asylteltine 3y ago
  How can you say that with a straight face? There are something like 2 billion Muslims compared to a few million Jews in the entire world. You can very easily go on twitter yourself and see how much louder the blatantly anti-Israel voices are compared to your antisemitic claims of “zionists” Can’t roll my eyes hard enough
  - lupusreal 3y ago
    We're talking about the number of young people who are critical of Israel and whether those people are primarily influenced by propaganda; I don't see how the relative number of Muslims and Jews have anything to do with it. In fact the most relevant population here isn't either of those but instead Christians, particularly in America. Support for Israel is [still] highest in America relative to almost the entire rest of the world, and in America support for Israel is the most popular with evangelical Christians (who support Israel at a greater rate than American Jews, and who greatly outnumber American Jews. For these evangelical Christians, unconditionally support for Israel is a matter of religious imperative which they believe to be an essential prerequisite for the reincarnation of their Messiah!) And it happens that American Christians have been experiencing a demographic collapse which has nothing to do with Palestinian propaganda! Young Americans have been rapidly abandoning Christianity, particularly the white evangelicals who support Israel the most, and the rabid support for Israel gets dropped in the process. Young people in America are abandoning their support for Israel because they are abandoning Christianity, which was traditionally the dominant religion in America (Muslim Americans may as well be a rounding error and didn't support Israel in the first place, they aren't being brainwashed by twitter propaganda either.) Zionists such as yourself feel accustomed to a very high level of support in America that predominantly comes from a religious demographic which young people are presently fleeing from, but for some reason you can't seem to connect the dots and resort to blaming twitter propagandists for the decline in support for Israel. Get real; most young Americans don't even use twitter. They support Israel less because they're becoming secular and now only support Israel at the rate that is typical of secular people in other countries.
    - mcny 3y ago
      I think both you and your parent commenters are correct in the sense that while there are people who pretend to support Israel online, they aren't actually friends of Israel. These are people who do not care one bit for the welfare of the Jews anywhere, much less Israel. These twitter people are problematic because it makes for very bad optics for people who genuinely want the best for the people of Israel. I think generations of leadership has turned a blind eye to this simply because it is expedient but at some point we all lose credibility as people spew illogical ideas while purportedly supporting Israel.

lupusreal 3y ago

Twitter is also chock full of Zionists who lie. But there's little basis to say that either camp of liars is responsible for the lionshare of support either side has.

asylteltine 3y ago
How can you say that with a straight face? There are something like 2 billion Muslims compared to a few million Jews in the entire world. You can very easily go on twitter yourself and see how much louder the blatantly anti-Israel voices are compared to your antisemitic claims of “zionists” Can’t roll my eyes hard enough
- lupusreal 3y ago
  We're talking about the number of young people who are critical of Israel and whether those people are primarily influenced by propaganda; I don't see how the relative number of Muslims and Jews have anything to do with it. In fact the most relevant population here isn't either of those but instead Christians, particularly in America. Support for Israel is [still] highest in America relative to almost the entire rest of the world, and in America support for Israel is the most popular with evangelical Christians (who support Israel at a greater rate than American Jews, and who greatly outnumber American Jews. For these evangelical Christians, unconditionally support for Israel is a matter of religious imperative which they believe to be an essential prerequisite for the reincarnation of their Messiah!) And it happens that American Christians have been experiencing a demographic collapse which has nothing to do with Palestinian propaganda! Young Americans have been rapidly abandoning Christianity, particularly the white evangelicals who support Israel the most, and the rabid support for Israel gets dropped in the process. Young people in America are abandoning their support for Israel because they are abandoning Christianity, which was traditionally the dominant religion in America (Muslim Americans may as well be a rounding error and didn't support Israel in the first place, they aren't being brainwashed by twitter propaganda either.) Zionists such as yourself feel accustomed to a very high level of support in America that predominantly comes from a religious demographic which young people are presently fleeing from, but for some reason you can't seem to connect the dots and resort to blaming twitter propagandists for the decline in support for Israel. Get real; most young Americans don't even use twitter. They support Israel less because they're becoming secular and now only support Israel at the rate that is typical of secular people in other countries.
  - mcny 3y ago
    I think both you and your parent commenters are correct in the sense that while there are people who pretend to support Israel online, they aren't actually friends of Israel. These are people who do not care one bit for the welfare of the Jews anywhere, much less Israel. These twitter people are problematic because it makes for very bad optics for people who genuinely want the best for the people of Israel. I think generations of leadership has turned a blind eye to this simply because it is expedient but at some point we all lose credibility as people spew illogical ideas while purportedly supporting Israel.