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This is awful. Slava Ukraini.
by ranting-moth 3y ago
This is awful. Slava Ukraini.
- user3939382 3y ago[flagged]
- the_only_law 3y agoIt was used then but it predates it apparently > The phrase was popularised during the Ukrainian War of Independence (from 1917 to 1921).
- relativeadv 3y agodamn, you really got em' with that one.
- usrusr 3y agoHow dare they pick a side when trapped between a rock and a hard place.
- technothrasher 3y agoYeah. Considering the Soviets had just killed millions of Ukrainians in the Holodomar when WWII started, I don't think from the Ukrainian perspective either group invading Ukraine at the time was the 'good side'. Many Ukrainians thought siding with Germany was their best chance to gain an independent country after the war. Unfortunately, we know now that the Nazis were never going to let that happen, and it did lead a lot of Ukrainians to collaborate with the Nazis in committing terrible atrocities. But it was a much more complicated situation than that they fought for the bad side. "Slava Ukraini" reflects their desire then and now for independent self rule, not any moral failings during WWII.
- daveguy 3y ago[flagged]
- user3939382 3y ago[flagged]
- hutzlibu 3y ago[flagged]
- neoromantique 3y ago>Neonazism does indeed enjoy broad support there. Not any more than US or Russia itself
- hutzlibu 3y agoAre there any official Nazi regiments or heros officially admired by the US? (In Russia you have the motorcyle gang with strong links to neonazism who are buddies with Putin edit: but upon a quick check, that might have been propaganda from the other side).
- thaumasiotes 3y ago[flagged]
- neoromantique 3y agoIn Russia? Wagner, Rusich, etc. Azov on the other hand is not a "Nazi regiment", it's had troubling beginnings but it was cleared up as it was brought into army ranks. EDIT: misread the question, in US there aren't 'regiments', but denying the fact that army is rife with supremacists is plain silly. [Any] Army by itself is a magnet for these sorts of folks, and it takes active effort to weed them out, not something that a country at war can easily afford.
- medo-bear 3y agoThis Russian propaganda is so stupid. Everyone knows that Azov people scrubbed their swastika tattoos off
- dralley 3y agoIf you had lived under Stalin for 15 years and directly experienced 4 million of your countrymen being starved to death under his dictats, the concept of "good" side and "bad" side is messy. Especially when you don't have full access to information - no internet, no newspapers, no radio. The Finns fought on the "bad" side as well, due to the Soviet Union having tried to invade them already two years previously. Ukraine had likewise tried to get independence in 1917 which led to a 4 year civil war which they unfortunately lost.
- hutzlibu 3y ago[flagged]
- neoromantique 3y agoUS is still battling with its confederate past many years later, it's insane to ask country that's had barely 30 years of independence to go through this quicker.
- jakupovic 3y agoHeroyam Slava. Agree awful!