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Does the Digital Services Act apply to the television? Is SVT a very large social media platform? If not, why compare them here?

impossiblefork 3y ago
It's funny because there's rules for dealing with alleged disinformation on social media platforms, but SVT, which is literally Sweden's official state television, get to distribute this actual disinformation which directly provides rhetorical cover for ethnic cleansing. That is, the situation represents a kind of hypocrisy-- a small thing is attacked vigorously, by an entity which does something much, much worse.
- rsynnott 3y ago
  Swedish TV is largely outside the purview of the EC; it’s Sweden’s problem to regulate. As a general rule, most EU states are broadly okay with media, including state media, lying. (I’ve no idea of the context of the incident you mention.)
  - impossiblefork 3y ago
    It was in September, after the Karabach-Armenians agreed to the opening of Agdam road into Nagorno-Karabach, which was to be opened along with the Lachin corridor. After letting through some small amount of supplies Azerbaijan then invaded along the Agdam road instead, putting them in a position to bombard Stepanakert with artillery, which of course, they did. When the Karabach-Armenians then fled, SVT said that 'Armenian separatists have agreed to leave Azerbaijan', which is of course incredibly misleading.
- zazazache 3y ago
  There are institutions like Medieombudsmannen and pressens etiksråd that work with enforcing the rules of press ethics in Sweden. Your allegations against SVT is them spreading misinformation directly, the EU is investigation how Twitter as a platform handles misinformation being spread. It’s a different thing Please show me where on the doll Jane Josefssons questions made you uncomfortable, lol
  - impossiblefork 3y ago
    I've shown it to you on the 'doll', haven't I? I provided an English translation of the quote from Aktuellt, where they claimed that what was in fact an ethnic cleansing that was achieved through starvation and then artillery bombardment, that was left unmentioned over the many months over which it went on, was that 'Armenian separatists have agreed to leave Azerbaijan'. I might well report it. I have in fact considered doing so, but it remains hypocrisy to spread disinformation while accusing others of doing so. This is also quite special, since it is in fact support for ethnic cleansing. There is nothing more heinous, when it comes to pressetik, than what SVT have done.
hiatus 3y ago
Why is social media held to a higher standard than journalism?
ajsnigrutin 3y ago
He was probably speaking about the concept of disinformation, especially when it suits the current political climate, and not the law itself. If we're talking about disinformation, pointing it out in other places is important too, doubly so if the media is owned by the same government who points fingers at others.
- impossiblefork 3y ago
  I am indeed.
robin_reala 3y ago
For those following along, a “very large provider” is a provider with more than 45 million monthly users. The population of Sweden is around 10.5 million, so the answer is a definitive no.

impossiblefork 3y ago

It's funny because there's rules for dealing with alleged disinformation on social media platforms, but SVT, which is literally Sweden's official state television, get to distribute this actual disinformation which directly provides rhetorical cover for ethnic cleansing. That is, the situation represents a kind of hypocrisy-- a small thing is attacked vigorously, by an entity which does something much, much worse.

rsynnott 3y ago
Swedish TV is largely outside the purview of the EC; it’s Sweden’s problem to regulate. As a general rule, most EU states are broadly okay with media, including state media, lying. (I’ve no idea of the context of the incident you mention.)
- impossiblefork 3y ago
  It was in September, after the Karabach-Armenians agreed to the opening of Agdam road into Nagorno-Karabach, which was to be opened along with the Lachin corridor. After letting through some small amount of supplies Azerbaijan then invaded along the Agdam road instead, putting them in a position to bombard Stepanakert with artillery, which of course, they did. When the Karabach-Armenians then fled, SVT said that 'Armenian separatists have agreed to leave Azerbaijan', which is of course incredibly misleading.
zazazache 3y ago
There are institutions like Medieombudsmannen and pressens etiksråd that work with enforcing the rules of press ethics in Sweden. Your allegations against SVT is them spreading misinformation directly, the EU is investigation how Twitter as a platform handles misinformation being spread. It’s a different thing Please show me where on the doll Jane Josefssons questions made you uncomfortable, lol
- impossiblefork 3y ago
  I've shown it to you on the 'doll', haven't I? I provided an English translation of the quote from Aktuellt, where they claimed that what was in fact an ethnic cleansing that was achieved through starvation and then artillery bombardment, that was left unmentioned over the many months over which it went on, was that 'Armenian separatists have agreed to leave Azerbaijan'. I might well report it. I have in fact considered doing so, but it remains hypocrisy to spread disinformation while accusing others of doing so. This is also quite special, since it is in fact support for ethnic cleansing. There is nothing more heinous, when it comes to pressetik, than what SVT have done.

hiatus 3y ago

Why is social media held to a higher standard than journalism?

ajsnigrutin 3y ago

He was probably speaking about the concept of disinformation, especially when it suits the current political climate, and not the law itself. If we're talking about disinformation, pointing it out in other places is important too, doubly so if the media is owned by the same government who points fingers at others.

impossiblefork 3y ago
I am indeed.

robin_reala 3y ago

For those following along, a “very large provider” is a provider with more than 45 million monthly users. The population of Sweden is around 10.5 million, so the answer is a definitive no.