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YouTube ordered to remove videos, filter future uploads by German court

15 points by Suraj-Sun 15y ago

nextparadigms 15y ago
I hope Google blocks Youtube in Germany. That will push the Pirate Party there to 30%. It won't be long until the laws will be changed and this will completely backfire against GEMA, which even Sony said they don't like because they are too aggressive with their content censorship in Germany.
- drone 15y ago
  Or, more than likely, if Youtube and others can't afford to deal with the restrictions imposed on them by GEMA and the courts - GEMA is now free to prop up their own front. Of course, at little to no licensing fees to the operators, while making a tidy profit by giving GEMA the control they desire. It looks like a textbook regulatory capture play, through the courts rather than the legislature.
  - chris_wot 15y ago
    Uh... If Sony and all the other Record companies couldn't make it, then what makes you think that GEMA can do what they can't? It's not like they have any sort of innovative platform - they seem to be spending most of their time enforcing copyright! That business model is... limited.
  - DasIch 15y ago
    The GEMA can't "prop up their own front" because they don't have any money for that nor is it even remotely reasonable that they will ever get it.
firlefans 15y ago
YouTube is already unusable from a German IP, the most ridiculous example of which is that the German National Anthem can't be watched from Germany.
LinaLauneBaer 15y ago
I am from Germany and it is so sad. I love to listen to Grooveshark while coding and a few months ago Grooveshark disabled their site for people from Germany because of high GEMA related costs. To work around this I installed a Chrome extension called Grooveshark Germany Unlocker (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/docdgimmdejoiemdafcgeodchlbllgac?hl=de https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/docdgimmdejoiemdaf...) which does some proxy magic. For accessing Youtube content blocked by GEMA I usually use Stealthy (another Chrome extension). I never have thought that I need these kind of tools - but I do.

15 points by Suraj-Sun 15y ago

I hope Google blocks Youtube in Germany. That will push the Pirate Party there to 30%. It won't be long until the laws will be changed and this will completely backfire against GEMA, which even Sony said they don't like because they are too aggressive with their content censorship in Germany.

drone 15y ago
Or, more than likely, if Youtube and others can't afford to deal with the restrictions imposed on them by GEMA and the courts - GEMA is now free to prop up their own front. Of course, at little to no licensing fees to the operators, while making a tidy profit by giving GEMA the control they desire. It looks like a textbook regulatory capture play, through the courts rather than the legislature.
- chris_wot 15y ago
  Uh... If Sony and all the other Record companies couldn't make it, then what makes you think that GEMA can do what they can't? It's not like they have any sort of innovative platform - they seem to be spending most of their time enforcing copyright! That business model is... limited.
- DasIch 15y ago
  The GEMA can't "prop up their own front" because they don't have any money for that nor is it even remotely reasonable that they will ever get it.

firlefans 15y ago

YouTube is already unusable from a German IP, the most ridiculous example of which is that the German National Anthem can't be watched from Germany.

LinaLauneBaer 15y ago

I am from Germany and it is so sad. I love to listen to Grooveshark while coding and a few months ago Grooveshark disabled their site for people from Germany because of high GEMA related costs. To work around this I installed a Chrome extension called Grooveshark Germany Unlocker (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/docdgimmdejoiemdafcgeodchlbllgac?hl=de https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/docdgimmdejoiemdaf...) which does some proxy magic. For accessing Youtube content blocked by GEMA I usually use Stealthy (another Chrome extension). I never have thought that I need these kind of tools - but I do.