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> Instead of jus making a car unable (auto breaks) to hit a pedestrian, we are doing some silly workarounds I have a car which auto-brakes when an obstacle is

> Instead of jus making a car unable (auto breaks) to hit a pedestrian, we are doing some silly workarounds I have a car which auto-brakes when an obstacle is ahead. Usually helps when parking in tight spots, or when backing out — its systems have wider FOV than I do, and it warns of incoming cars of pedestrians a fraction of a second before I can see them, which is good. Except when the weather conditions or something on the road trigger a false positive and I suddenly go from 45-50 km/h to full stop. It's also a lot of adrenaline fun for the drivers behind me. Happened twice last year. So no. A speaker is more reliable and robust and simple a solution.

bigfudge 3y ago
Separating your car from unprotected humans is the solution. Your right to drive a 2 tonne machine through residential streets where other people live and their kids play is a historical and cultural anomaly. Let’s not pretend the solution is speakers to get pedestrians jumping quicker.
- WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
  I welcome you to design such a block of streets, though keep in mind that it still needs to be maintained. Also when you have a grocery shop, something needs to load and unload groceries. Also, you have fire trucks, ambulances, police cars that need to have access.
  - vincnetas 3y ago
    Emergency vehicles do have these things called sirens. I'm not against them. Thats an emergency after all.
    - WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
      I wasn't talking about sirens at all. You make vehicle-friendly neighborhoods if you want emergency vehicles to be able to get there. The moment there are vehicle-friendly neighborhoods, the locals will inevitably come with reasons and excuses to have their cars parked as close to their house entrances as it gets. You don't win against human nature.
      - psd1 3y ago
        There are lots of lowering bollards in the UK. That allows you to do things like slow emergency vehicles, or allow motor traffic only at designated times.
  - bigfudge 3y ago
    It's going to take a long time to change our built envrinoment and habits, but it's not inevitably human nature to want cars whipping through the places our kids play. In fact, given a choice rich people rarely allow this in their neighbourhoods. If you want to see what spaces look like when cars are deprioritised, NL and other European countries are leading the way. And you don't have to ban them entirely. Just stop through traffic, and limit to local residents. Also reduce speed limits and make public transport a viable alternative for people. Drink driving also used to be normal and "inevitable". It's possible to change.

bigfudge 3y ago

Separating your car from unprotected humans is the solution. Your right to drive a 2 tonne machine through residential streets where other people live and their kids play is a historical and cultural anomaly. Let’s not pretend the solution is speakers to get pedestrians jumping quicker.

WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
I welcome you to design such a block of streets, though keep in mind that it still needs to be maintained. Also when you have a grocery shop, something needs to load and unload groceries. Also, you have fire trucks, ambulances, police cars that need to have access.
- vincnetas 3y ago
  Emergency vehicles do have these things called sirens. I'm not against them. Thats an emergency after all.
  - WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
    I wasn't talking about sirens at all. You make vehicle-friendly neighborhoods if you want emergency vehicles to be able to get there. The moment there are vehicle-friendly neighborhoods, the locals will inevitably come with reasons and excuses to have their cars parked as close to their house entrances as it gets. You don't win against human nature.
    - psd1 3y ago
      There are lots of lowering bollards in the UK. That allows you to do things like slow emergency vehicles, or allow motor traffic only at designated times.
- bigfudge 3y ago
  It's going to take a long time to change our built envrinoment and habits, but it's not inevitably human nature to want cars whipping through the places our kids play. In fact, given a choice rich people rarely allow this in their neighbourhoods. If you want to see what spaces look like when cars are deprioritised, NL and other European countries are leading the way. And you don't have to ban them entirely. Just stop through traffic, and limit to local residents. Also reduce speed limits and make public transport a viable alternative for people. Drink driving also used to be normal and "inevitable". It's possible to change.