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>Timing was pretty bang on if you consider Jan 6th as a turning point of all the things happening around that same time-frame, the Jan 6th events seem to have
by serf 3y ago
>Timing was pretty bang on if you consider Jan 6th as a turning point
of all the things happening around that same time-frame, the Jan 6th events seem to have been some of the least impactful, aside from just being a huge talking point in these type of "world is decaying" conversations
the media decided to report on that event in such a way as to draw more outrage than the other stuff -- but looking back the other stuff seems to have created a larger last impact; BLM/lock-down/pandemic/WFH/disaster-recession/George Floyd/Rittenhouse/social-distancing, just about any affect of that time period seems to have created deeper scars than the Jan 6th stuff.
now, Jan 6th stuff drew a lot of public outrage -- the sanctity of the office and so on and so fourth -- but real social and physical trauma that has lasted into today? There were more important events during that time-frame in that regard, personal opinion.
If you're just counting physical violence/death/injury then there are more severe events to consider unless we're weighing stuff like "a politician's life is more valuable than a bystander" type rationalization.
and to be clear : i'm not even debating the whole fall-of-Rome premise, i'm just saying that as an individual that witnessed this whole history it feels as if there was greater chinks in the armor than the Jan 6th events.
- ethanbond 3y ago> now, Jan 6th stuff drew a lot of public outrage -- the sanctity of the office and so on and so fourth -- but real social and physical trauma that has lasted into today? There were more important events during that time-frame in that regard, personal opinion. You should listen to some Constitutional law folks talk about this stuff. We are crashing headlong into a legitimate constitutional crisis because of January 6 and the resultant cases.
- AndrewKemendo 3y agoHonestly, these responses have been staggeringly depressing
- vharuck 3y agoIt's unfair to compare the single event on January 6th with every BLM protest, or every state's implementation of lockdown and the resulting clashes, etc. I'm appalled by January 6th because the representative for my district accepted his win in the November elections, went to D.C., and then voted to throw out all votes for my state as being dubious. The riot, building-storming, and literal lynch mob were the natural outcomes of months of cynical choices by politicians to control the government in spite of democratic elections. It's not a thing to let slide.
- rayiner 3y agoWhat state are you from? January 6 didn’t register for me at all, and I grew up in the area and work in DC. I grew up in Virginia, with a very Jefferson heavy curriculum. “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants,” and whatnot. I wonder if that has something to do with it.
- dctoedt 3y ago> January 6 didn’t register for me at all, and I grew up in the area and work in DC. YGBSM
- AndrewKemendo 3y agoWhose blood exactly is it refreshed with? Also maybe let’s break that toxic cycle instead of continuing it
- rayiner 3y ago“Patriots and tyrants.” It’s right in the quote.
- AndrewKemendo 3y agoRight I think implied in my question is “who decides who is who?” Certainly the native populations and black slaves didn’t have much voice here.
- junofan 3y agoThe natives were heavily armed and owned tons of slaves. A prevailing view was slaves were foisted on the colonists by King George III through a combination of debt and the trans-Atlantic slave trade, so a big goal of the Revolution was ending that trade. Of course Jefferson was wrong, and chattel slavery continued.