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I think it's pretty straightforward, everyone knows those people need help, the government also likely has programs aiming to try to resolve the issue. On the

I think it's pretty straightforward, everyone knows those people need help, the government also likely has programs aiming to try to resolve the issue. On the other hand, these "tranq tourists" are just causing more trouble for the sake of social media clout.

adolph 3y ago
> "tranq tourists" are just causing more trouble What trouble do tranq tourists cause?
- dotnet00 3y ago
  They're showing up and paying people to be filmed shooting up, thus encouraging the shooting up further. People high on the drug are being recorded being asked highly personal things when in a state where they cannot properly consent, thus likely only exacerbating the issues that caused them to rely on drugs by adding more embarassment. Plus, since it's being done for clout, like many other TikTok trends, it'll continue to escalate in extremeness until something more drastic happens.
  - adolph 3y ago
    So the trouble tranq tourists cause is: * encouraging tranq use by paying users of tranq * adding embarrassment to users of tranq It seems like paying someone else to take an illegal substance is as prosecutable as purchasing the drug yourself, maybe even more if the person paid is not able to consent. I wonder why the municipality is not arresting people for this activity. Interestingly: Tranq is not a federally controlled substance. That means it’s not deemed illegal to use by itself under federal law. You can get it with a veterinarian’s prescription. https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/what-is-tranq-xylazine https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/what-is-tranq-...
    - zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago
      I'm eating a bagel while I type this. Whether or not you pay to record me eating a bagel won't change how much bagel eating I'm doing. You're not forcing me. You're paying me to do something I was already doing.
      - ornornor 3y ago
        Good that neither a bagel nor tranqs are addictive and that the user is totally in control with both products.
        zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago
        Yes
        parentheses 3y ago
        Maybe you're being sarcastic and it isn't clear but a bagel and tranq are different in one major way - one is addictive and causes necrosis.
        ornornor 3y ago
        Yes I was being sarcastic to parent and their bagel example.
      - sjfjsjdjwvwvc 3y ago
        „I‘m doing $thing. Whether or not you pay me to do $thing won’t change how much I do $thing.“ I hope you see how bad that argument is, especially if $thing is a highly addictive drug.
        zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago
        Not a bad argument. They're going to do it anyway
        sjfjsjdjwvwvc 3y ago
    - girvo 3y ago
      Xylazine is rarely taken on it's own, it's bought as a combination of various fentanyl analogs or nitazene analogs and xylazine added. Horrific stuff.
- mschuster91 3y ago
  > What trouble do tranq tourists cause? The trouble these people cause is violating any shred of decency that the film subjects have. No one, no matter how fucked up their life is, should end up on the global media stage without their consent. Just think about that: Would you like to be filmed while high out of your mind or being covered in feces as a result of loss of bowel control due to drug effects? And all of that being distributed to millions of people in an instant? Probably not. Economically, the fact that all these streamers operate in a sort-of legal grey zone also disadvantages legitimate journalists and (documentary) moviemakers who actually go through all the trouble to make legally sound material (e.g. obtaining proper sign-offs, not paying people to hit up).
  - CaptainZapp 3y ago
    Thank you.

adolph 3y ago

> "tranq tourists" are just causing more trouble What trouble do tranq tourists cause?

dotnet00 3y ago
They're showing up and paying people to be filmed shooting up, thus encouraging the shooting up further. People high on the drug are being recorded being asked highly personal things when in a state where they cannot properly consent, thus likely only exacerbating the issues that caused them to rely on drugs by adding more embarassment. Plus, since it's being done for clout, like many other TikTok trends, it'll continue to escalate in extremeness until something more drastic happens.
- adolph 3y ago
  So the trouble tranq tourists cause is: * encouraging tranq use by paying users of tranq * adding embarrassment to users of tranq It seems like paying someone else to take an illegal substance is as prosecutable as purchasing the drug yourself, maybe even more if the person paid is not able to consent. I wonder why the municipality is not arresting people for this activity. Interestingly: Tranq is not a federally controlled substance. That means it’s not deemed illegal to use by itself under federal law. You can get it with a veterinarian’s prescription. https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/what-is-tranq-xylazine https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/what-is-tranq-...
  - zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago
    I'm eating a bagel while I type this. Whether or not you pay to record me eating a bagel won't change how much bagel eating I'm doing. You're not forcing me. You're paying me to do something I was already doing.
    - ornornor 3y ago
      Good that neither a bagel nor tranqs are addictive and that the user is totally in control with both products.
      - zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago
        Yes
      - parentheses 3y ago
        Maybe you're being sarcastic and it isn't clear but a bagel and tranq are different in one major way - one is addictive and causes necrosis.
        ornornor 3y ago
        Yes I was being sarcastic to parent and their bagel example.
    - sjfjsjdjwvwvc 3y ago
      „I‘m doing $thing. Whether or not you pay me to do $thing won’t change how much I do $thing.“ I hope you see how bad that argument is, especially if $thing is a highly addictive drug.
      - zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago
        Not a bad argument. They're going to do it anyway
        sjfjsjdjwvwvc 3y ago
  - girvo 3y ago
    Xylazine is rarely taken on it's own, it's bought as a combination of various fentanyl analogs or nitazene analogs and xylazine added. Horrific stuff.
mschuster91 3y ago
> What trouble do tranq tourists cause? The trouble these people cause is violating any shred of decency that the film subjects have. No one, no matter how fucked up their life is, should end up on the global media stage without their consent. Just think about that: Would you like to be filmed while high out of your mind or being covered in feces as a result of loss of bowel control due to drug effects? And all of that being distributed to millions of people in an instant? Probably not. Economically, the fact that all these streamers operate in a sort-of legal grey zone also disadvantages legitimate journalists and (documentary) moviemakers who actually go through all the trouble to make legally sound material (e.g. obtaining proper sign-offs, not paying people to hit up).
- CaptainZapp 3y ago
  Thank you.