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In what sense does your quote confirm that Israel is engaging in collective punishment? Israel believes it is rooting out Hamas and that there is an embedded ci

In what sense does your quote confirm that Israel is engaging in collective punishment? Israel believes it is rooting out Hamas and that there is an embedded civilian component to its operation (which is unequivocally true). This is the problem with taking three sentences out of someone’s mouth and deciding they support an idea as broad as “collective punishment.” Perhaps you should understand the context of his words before you use them? In any event, you asked for one time Israel brought a complaint to the UN and I provided it. Please don’t alter the goalposts you yourself set. What was the UN’s response? Was there an intervention? A censure of Hezbollah or Lebanon? An investigation?

rjzzleep 3y ago
What exactly is your ask here? To censure Lebanon for moving troops within inside its own country? And how does that relate to my question about Gaza.
- Veraticus 3y ago
  Anything! Israel has gone to the UN before and the response is radio silence. Oh, except for literally anything Israel itself does, which results in waves of censure and resolutions condemning Israel and its existence. Given the UN’s history towards Israel, why would it ever take anything to the UNSC or believe that its arbitrations and judgments are anything but massively biased against it?
  - rjzzleep 3y ago
    > Given the UN’s history towards Israel, why would it ever take anything to the UNSC or believe that its arbitrations and judgments are anything but massively biased against it? I don't really understand that line of reasoning, doesn't Israel owe its existence to the UN security council resolution in 1948?
    - Veraticus 3y ago
      Quite the opposite. Israel owes its existence only to its willingness to fight tooth and claw for that existence. The UN has never shown even the slightest willingness to police or enforce any of its resolutions. (Also I think you’re referring to the partition resolution of 1947, which was a dead letter literally on its arrival as civil war had already broken out in Palestine.)

rjzzleep 3y ago

What exactly is your ask here? To censure Lebanon for moving troops within inside its own country? And how does that relate to my question about Gaza.

Veraticus 3y ago
Anything! Israel has gone to the UN before and the response is radio silence. Oh, except for literally anything Israel itself does, which results in waves of censure and resolutions condemning Israel and its existence. Given the UN’s history towards Israel, why would it ever take anything to the UNSC or believe that its arbitrations and judgments are anything but massively biased against it?
- rjzzleep 3y ago
  > Given the UN’s history towards Israel, why would it ever take anything to the UNSC or believe that its arbitrations and judgments are anything but massively biased against it? I don't really understand that line of reasoning, doesn't Israel owe its existence to the UN security council resolution in 1948?
  - Veraticus 3y ago
    Quite the opposite. Israel owes its existence only to its willingness to fight tooth and claw for that existence. The UN has never shown even the slightest willingness to police or enforce any of its resolutions. (Also I think you’re referring to the partition resolution of 1947, which was a dead letter literally on its arrival as civil war had already broken out in Palestine.)