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I can’t think of a single fact on its own that presents any danger. If anything, facts through the lens of ideology may become dangerous, but data on its own is

I can’t think of a single fact on its own that presents any danger. If anything, facts through the lens of ideology may become dangerous, but data on its own is like technology. Neutral without application, good or evil depending on situation.

2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
Hypothetically if the world's scientists were to all prove that blacks were inferior to whites, what good would come out of that? I can't think of a single good thing that would come from that- the world would be worse for knowing such a fact.
- bsdpufferfish 3y ago
  Does “inferior” mean statistically less likely to be good at logic games? Because I don’t believe people’s claim to humanity is defined by that.
  - HKH2 3y ago
    Right. Humanity is not defined by IQ or knowledge, and it's perfectly okay for people to prefer the company of some without denying the humanity of others.
- eternauta3k 3y ago
  If this were proven, we would be forced to set a rigorous foundation for our values where all people have the same rights and worth regardless of how smart they are. Instead of saying people are only equally worthy if they are equally smart, and hoping no one proves the latter wrong.
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- Noughmad 3y ago
  First you would need to define a measure of inferiority. I'm pretty sure we have measured some very spicific things, and found that different races on average have some genetic advantages and disadvantages. Is saying that Asians are disadvantaged in milk drinking competitions making society worse? Also, because humans are diverse, differences between individuals within any racial group can be far greater than differences between races. And if you compare men and women, the differences are much much bigger, and the comparisons much more frequent - you can barely turn on the TV or open up any social media without seeing them. So, ultimately - so what?
- HKH2 3y ago
  People would have to think further than just assuming that blacks are less well off purely because of systemic oppression.
- noah_buddy 3y ago
  The issue with your hypothetical is that it presupposes a factual metric for superiority and inferiority. They’re all at best reductive to a single metric that likely doesn’t have much power in making a determination or a subjective weighting of many different factors. There is no factual superiority or inferiority, you’re again getting at judging facts through the lens of ideology.

2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago

Hypothetically if the world's scientists were to all prove that blacks were inferior to whites, what good would come out of that? I can't think of a single good thing that would come from that- the world would be worse for knowing such a fact.

bsdpufferfish 3y ago
Does “inferior” mean statistically less likely to be good at logic games? Because I don’t believe people’s claim to humanity is defined by that.
- HKH2 3y ago
  Right. Humanity is not defined by IQ or knowledge, and it's perfectly okay for people to prefer the company of some without denying the humanity of others.
eternauta3k 3y ago
If this were proven, we would be forced to set a rigorous foundation for our values where all people have the same rights and worth regardless of how smart they are. Instead of saying people are only equally worthy if they are equally smart, and hoping no one proves the latter wrong.
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Noughmad 3y ago
First you would need to define a measure of inferiority. I'm pretty sure we have measured some very spicific things, and found that different races on average have some genetic advantages and disadvantages. Is saying that Asians are disadvantaged in milk drinking competitions making society worse? Also, because humans are diverse, differences between individuals within any racial group can be far greater than differences between races. And if you compare men and women, the differences are much much bigger, and the comparisons much more frequent - you can barely turn on the TV or open up any social media without seeing them. So, ultimately - so what?
HKH2 3y ago
People would have to think further than just assuming that blacks are less well off purely because of systemic oppression.
noah_buddy 3y ago
The issue with your hypothetical is that it presupposes a factual metric for superiority and inferiority. They’re all at best reductive to a single metric that likely doesn’t have much power in making a determination or a subjective weighting of many different factors. There is no factual superiority or inferiority, you’re again getting at judging facts through the lens of ideology.