I am not presupposing guilt, I am seriously wondering how you would have a working justice system that never arrests suspects. Complaining that all elements of

I am not presupposing guilt, I am seriously wondering how you would have a working justice system that never arrests suspects. Complaining that all elements of a justice system is a form of torture is like unironically using the term "stare rape": you're trivialising the real term in pursuit of winning points in an argument.