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For those with elderly parents the writing has been on the wall for years. It’s sad but my mother has for some time been effectively locked out of parts of the

For those with elderly parents the writing has been on the wall for years. It’s sad but my mother has for some time been effectively locked out of parts of the internet as she is unable to complete these kinds of captures due to eyesight issues. I mean, I’ve sometimes had to try three or four times with certain captures and I have perfect eyesight (with my glasses). I feel so badly for those with vision or hearing issues with an empathy I never had when I was younger. They are so often simply forgotten.

graphe 3y ago
There's audio captcha. Try to click the headphone logo (Google captcha has it).
- J_Shelby_J 3y ago
  I’ve switched to audio captchas completely because it’s quicker and sometimes the image captchas just won’t work.
- armada651 3y ago
  Because as we all know, the elderly with deteriorating eye sight have perfect hearing. /s
pixl97 3y ago
>captures due to eyesight issues. I'm kinda surprised that ADA doesn't allow them to sue site owners about this.
- behringer 3y ago
  They almost certainly do. However most captchas allow an alternative solving method. On top of that, you'd have to find a lawyer willing to take the case.
  - fnordpiglet 3y ago
    Oh ADA lawyers are a dime a dozen. There’s entire cottage industries of finding ADA violations to sue over. The issue is more finding companies to sue that can’t afford to fight back.
    - nativeit 3y ago
      I don’t know about that. When I was 18, I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, and received a sudden and unexpected demotion from a job with a small regional restaurant franchise that was previously flourishing, and then found myself unemployed a few weeks later, just days before my benefits package was due to be activated. I contacted several attorneys, none of whom would consider taking the case, or even bother to discuss the details with me. One of them told me that, at least in North Carolina, an employer would effectively have to get on the stand and explicitly confess taking adverse actions against me specifically because I had been diagnosed with MS. Any other remotely plausible excuse would provide them with all the cover necessary. It was only much later that I learned that I would have had to have filed a complaint with the EEOC and NLRB within 180-days, and allow them to investigate my claims fully before authorizing such a lawsuit to begin with, as without such a determination I could not file the suit anyway. None of the attorneys I consulted even mentioned this absolutely critical first step, which suggests that they had even less faith in a successful outcome. Maybe it’s different for facilities and regulatory enforcement, but in my experience, at least for labor, the protections are incredibly weak.
      - fnordpiglet 3y ago
        This is more ADA title I. Typically for Title III ADA lawyers troll small businesses looking for accessibility issues like lack of ramp, and have a stable of disabled clients who will file against the businesses. Since the businesses can’t generally afford to context or pay fines they’ll settle quickly and remediate, or a non trivial amount of the time get run out of business (if for instance the remediation costs a non trivial amount to pull off). I’m not judging bad or good, here, it is what it is and perhaps it’s the right outcome to allow for general accessibility.

graphe 3y ago

There's audio captcha. Try to click the headphone logo (Google captcha has it).

J_Shelby_J 3y ago
I’ve switched to audio captchas completely because it’s quicker and sometimes the image captchas just won’t work.
armada651 3y ago
Because as we all know, the elderly with deteriorating eye sight have perfect hearing. /s

pixl97 3y ago

>captures due to eyesight issues. I'm kinda surprised that ADA doesn't allow them to sue site owners about this.

behringer 3y ago
They almost certainly do. However most captchas allow an alternative solving method. On top of that, you'd have to find a lawyer willing to take the case.
- fnordpiglet 3y ago
  Oh ADA lawyers are a dime a dozen. There’s entire cottage industries of finding ADA violations to sue over. The issue is more finding companies to sue that can’t afford to fight back.
  - nativeit 3y ago
    I don’t know about that. When I was 18, I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, and received a sudden and unexpected demotion from a job with a small regional restaurant franchise that was previously flourishing, and then found myself unemployed a few weeks later, just days before my benefits package was due to be activated. I contacted several attorneys, none of whom would consider taking the case, or even bother to discuss the details with me. One of them told me that, at least in North Carolina, an employer would effectively have to get on the stand and explicitly confess taking adverse actions against me specifically because I had been diagnosed with MS. Any other remotely plausible excuse would provide them with all the cover necessary. It was only much later that I learned that I would have had to have filed a complaint with the EEOC and NLRB within 180-days, and allow them to investigate my claims fully before authorizing such a lawsuit to begin with, as without such a determination I could not file the suit anyway. None of the attorneys I consulted even mentioned this absolutely critical first step, which suggests that they had even less faith in a successful outcome. Maybe it’s different for facilities and regulatory enforcement, but in my experience, at least for labor, the protections are incredibly weak.
    - fnordpiglet 3y ago
      This is more ADA title I. Typically for Title III ADA lawyers troll small businesses looking for accessibility issues like lack of ramp, and have a stable of disabled clients who will file against the businesses. Since the businesses can’t generally afford to context or pay fines they’ll settle quickly and remediate, or a non trivial amount of the time get run out of business (if for instance the remediation costs a non trivial amount to pull off). I’m not judging bad or good, here, it is what it is and perhaps it’s the right outcome to allow for general accessibility.