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> and Source Hut Not a very serious option if you're looking for anyone from the 21st century to contribute to your project. No, the email workflow doesn't get
by meibo 3y ago
> and Source Hut
Not a very serious option if you're looking for anyone from the 21st century to contribute to your project. No, the email workflow doesn't get better by just screaming "it's not that bad!" over and over again.
I'm looking forward to the federation work that is being done for forgejo, that will be big if it works out as it seems like it will.
- paradox460 3y agoAlso, the founder has an unfortunate history of just up and abandoning his projects when they stop being fun for him. I used his media host/imgur alternative in the past, and it spontaneously just disappeared one day. I'd rather that not happen to my source code
- aleph_minus_one 3y ago> I used his media host/imgur alternative in the past, and it spontaneously just disappeared one day. I'd rather that not happen to my source code Git is decentralized.
- Kwpolska 3y agoGit is decentralized. Ticketing systems and mailing lists as found on SourceHut and many other forges aren’t. And if SourceHut disappears, what would you do with the repository? You’d upload it to a new forge, but how would you tell users where to find it, how would the users know this is the original source and not a hostile fork? It’s better to pick a stable, trustworthy. and 21st-century place like GitHub or GitLab instead of SourceHut.
- aleph_minus_one 3y ago> It’s better to pick a stable, trustworthy. and 21st-century place like GitHub or GitLab instead of SourceHut. It's better to not make yourself (much) dependent on functionalities that only the respective software forge provides.
- Kwpolska 3y agoWhat would you suggest instead? How would you replace pull requests, or even sending patches via email to mailing lists?
- potatopatch 3y agoI'd don't really see a difference between sending an email to a list or to a maintainer. Maybe that's an argument for not adding and adapting to unnecessary concepts like a web based pull request.
- Kwpolska 3y agoWhat if there’s more than one maintainer? How do you build any sort of community without a place for discussion?
- aleph_minus_one 3y ago> How do you build any sort of community without a place for discussion? There exist many ways for this. Why does this have to be the same provider (if you don't want to self-host this functionality) as the one that hosts the server for the VCS?
- mariusor 3y ago> abandoning his projects when they stop being fun for him I would call expecting any developer to do it differently quite an entitled opinion. And DeVault has a way better track record on successful projects (some of which continue being successful after he moved on with the help of the communities he fostered) than any of us really. Experience shows that it's very difficult to make a business work on top of open source software and he is doing it as we speak. Your complaint smells like a petty grudge in the face of all the other things that could be said about his projects.
- aleph_minus_one 3y ago> > and Source Hut > Not a very serious option if you're looking for anyone from the 21st century to contribute to your project. No, the email workflow doesn't get better by just screaming "it's not that bad!" over and over again. Perhaps the maintainers of the respective project consider filtering out contributions from "hipster programmers" actually desirable for the project. :-)
- johnny22 3y agoCan't say i feel much like a hipster programmer after doing some amount of programming for 20 years. I still prefer the github approach.
- plagiarist 3y agoAre the hipsters the ones using email or refusing to use email? I could see a dude rolling up on a penny farthing to explain why email is the one true workflow. But he'll be embarrassed when a more powerful hipster shows up using a telegraph to send diffs by wire.