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Yes, if typical operations license is valid for 20 years, the typical life span is obviously 20 years. Because after that time it is cheaper to build a newer an

by _ph_ 3y ago

Yes, if typical operations license is valid for 20 years, the typical life span is obviously 20 years. Because after that time it is cheaper to build a newer and improved generator than to try to renew the license. That doesn't imply a technical limitation. You pointing to the maintenance interval is just bad faith argumenting. On that ground, nuclear energy is even more irresponsible, as the power plants get daily maintenance and supervision. And your claim about the expansion of the lignite usage is another lie. It is on a historical low. It could be lower still, if the previous government hadn't curbed the rollout of renewable energy while accellarating the shutdown of nuclear. Blame them, not the greens.

the_third_wave 3y ago
> Yes, if typical operations license is valid for 20 years, the typical life span is obviously 20 years You're moving the goal posts. I merely state the facts as published by manufacturers and those from experience in the field (which show the manufacturer data to be highly optimistic). > You pointing to the maintenance interval is just bad faith argumenting It is not me pointing out the maintenance interval but the EPA. Is the EPA acting in bad faith? > And your claim about the expansion of the lignite usage is another lie. It is on a historical low Germany is re-opening lignite power plants. Tell us how this rhymes with your claim. Also, please, stop using hyperbolic language like 'argumenting in bad faith' and 'another lie', here we deal in facts not feelings. You are clearly ideologically aligned with those who closed the nuclear power plants but do not let ideology cloud your reasoning. Had 'Die Grune' not insisted on closing those nuclear power plants the lignite plants could have remained closed, the wind farm would not need to make place for a lignite mine and power prices in my part of the world (Sweden) would be markedly lower instead of being pushed up due to the fact that the interconnected grid causes prices to be affected by those on the other side of the border.
- _ph_ 3y ago
  But you are not telling the truth. Yes, some coal power plants have been reacted, but they are on standby in case we run out of gas or some other major energy shortages. Which hasn't happened. We managed to replace the Russian gas and there was no extremely hard winter. And those plants are slowly getting mothballed again.

by _ph_ 3y ago

the_third_wave 3y ago

> Yes, if typical operations license is valid for 20 years, the typical life span is obviously 20 years You're moving the goal posts. I merely state the facts as published by manufacturers and those from experience in the field (which show the manufacturer data to be highly optimistic). > You pointing to the maintenance interval is just bad faith argumenting It is not me pointing out the maintenance interval but the EPA. Is the EPA acting in bad faith? > And your claim about the expansion of the lignite usage is another lie. It is on a historical low Germany is re-opening lignite power plants. Tell us how this rhymes with your claim. Also, please, stop using hyperbolic language like 'argumenting in bad faith' and 'another lie', here we deal in facts not feelings. You are clearly ideologically aligned with those who closed the nuclear power plants but do not let ideology cloud your reasoning. Had 'Die Grune' not insisted on closing those nuclear power plants the lignite plants could have remained closed, the wind farm would not need to make place for a lignite mine and power prices in my part of the world (Sweden) would be markedly lower instead of being pushed up due to the fact that the interconnected grid causes prices to be affected by those on the other side of the border.

_ph_ 3y ago
But you are not telling the truth. Yes, some coal power plants have been reacted, but they are on standby in case we run out of gas or some other major energy shortages. Which hasn't happened. We managed to replace the Russian gas and there was no extremely hard winter. And those plants are slowly getting mothballed again.