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Having tried GitHub, GitLab, Source Hut, Codeberg, and BitBucket (RIP), I think the only serious options are GitHub, GitLab self hosted, and Source Hut. GitHub

by Ayesh 3y ago

Having tried GitHub, GitLab, Source Hut, Codeberg, and BitBucket (RIP), I think the only serious options are GitHub, GitLab self hosted, and Source Hut. GitHub owned by MSFT aside, and also putting their AI push _also_ aside, GitHub has things like Sponsors, Dependabot, and code scanning that you won't find anywhere else. They sure are luring you into ecosystems that require a huge escape velocity, but GitHub serves as less-friction entry point to open source software. GitLab self hosting is also nice and flexible, but it has a more "enterprise open source" feeling to it. Debian and Drupal can take advantage of it, but I don't see myself hosting mini projects like my mini CSS library that is also used by three other strangers. Source Hut is really nice too. Admittedly I don't like email based workflows, so I haven't really thought about moving anything there. But Source Hut has "unlisted" repos, which I thought was really clever and missing from other forges.

matheusmoreira 3y ago
GitHub Sponsors is pretty great. Seems like a perfectly ethical way for open source developers to earn money. Doesn't depend on copyright, artificial scarcity, advertising. I really like it.
isilofi 3y ago
> Dependabot, and code scanning that you won't find anywhere else. Gitlab has equivalents you can enable as CI pipelines.
- lolinder 3y ago
  So do other forges: I have Renovate [0] set up on my self-hosted Forgejo and it's worked great so far. [0] https://github.com/renovatebot/renovate https://github.com/renovatebot/renovate
mst 3y ago
Having been using gitea at work for a while as an "internal mini-github" (along with a github organisation for stuff that isn't purely internal or would otherwise benefit for that) I have to say it ... hasn't annoyed me noticeably. So I think I'd put gitea* on that list as well. (I don't think I disagree with your opinions about the ones you -have- listed) * and I mean that to include forgejo, I think, though I haven't tried it so YMMV
meibo 3y ago
> and Source Hut Not a very serious option if you're looking for anyone from the 21st century to contribute to your project. No, the email workflow doesn't get better by just screaming "it's not that bad!" over and over again. I'm looking forward to the federation work that is being done for forgejo, that will be big if it works out as it seems like it will.
- paradox460 3y ago
  Also, the founder has an unfortunate history of just up and abandoning his projects when they stop being fun for him. I used his media host/imgur alternative in the past, and it spontaneously just disappeared one day. I'd rather that not happen to my source code
  - aleph_minus_one 3y ago
    > I used his media host/imgur alternative in the past, and it spontaneously just disappeared one day. I'd rather that not happen to my source code Git is decentralized.
    - Kwpolska 3y ago
      Git is decentralized. Ticketing systems and mailing lists as found on SourceHut and many other forges aren’t. And if SourceHut disappears, what would you do with the repository? You’d upload it to a new forge, but how would you tell users where to find it, how would the users know this is the original source and not a hostile fork? It’s better to pick a stable, trustworthy. and 21st-century place like GitHub or GitLab instead of SourceHut.
      - aleph_minus_one 3y ago
        > It’s better to pick a stable, trustworthy. and 21st-century place like GitHub or GitLab instead of SourceHut. It's better to not make yourself (much) dependent on functionalities that only the respective software forge provides.
ForkMeOnTinder 3y ago
I'm curious what you thought was missing from Codeberg.
dr_kiszonka 3y ago
What irks me about GitHub is their LFS offering, which supports uploading/tracking files, but not deleting them. If you want to remove files from their LFS (and stop paying for it), you are supposed - and I am not kidding - delete the whole repo. (And they don't mention it on their LFS setup page.)

by Ayesh 3y ago

matheusmoreira 3y ago

GitHub Sponsors is pretty great. Seems like a perfectly ethical way for open source developers to earn money. Doesn't depend on copyright, artificial scarcity, advertising. I really like it.

isilofi 3y ago

> Dependabot, and code scanning that you won't find anywhere else. Gitlab has equivalents you can enable as CI pipelines.

lolinder 3y ago
So do other forges: I have Renovate [0] set up on my self-hosted Forgejo and it's worked great so far. [0] https://github.com/renovatebot/renovate https://github.com/renovatebot/renovate

mst 3y ago

Having been using gitea at work for a while as an "internal mini-github" (along with a github organisation for stuff that isn't purely internal or would otherwise benefit for that) I have to say it ... hasn't annoyed me noticeably. So I think I'd put gitea* on that list as well. (I don't think I disagree with your opinions about the ones you -have- listed) * and I mean that to include forgejo, I think, though I haven't tried it so YMMV

meibo 3y ago

> and Source Hut Not a very serious option if you're looking for anyone from the 21st century to contribute to your project. No, the email workflow doesn't get better by just screaming "it's not that bad!" over and over again. I'm looking forward to the federation work that is being done for forgejo, that will be big if it works out as it seems like it will.

paradox460 3y ago
Also, the founder has an unfortunate history of just up and abandoning his projects when they stop being fun for him. I used his media host/imgur alternative in the past, and it spontaneously just disappeared one day. I'd rather that not happen to my source code
- aleph_minus_one 3y ago
  > I used his media host/imgur alternative in the past, and it spontaneously just disappeared one day. I'd rather that not happen to my source code Git is decentralized.
  - Kwpolska 3y ago
    Git is decentralized. Ticketing systems and mailing lists as found on SourceHut and many other forges aren’t. And if SourceHut disappears, what would you do with the repository? You’d upload it to a new forge, but how would you tell users where to find it, how would the users know this is the original source and not a hostile fork? It’s better to pick a stable, trustworthy. and 21st-century place like GitHub or GitLab instead of SourceHut.
    - aleph_minus_one 3y ago
      > It’s better to pick a stable, trustworthy. and 21st-century place like GitHub or GitLab instead of SourceHut. It's better to not make yourself (much) dependent on functionalities that only the respective software forge provides.

ForkMeOnTinder 3y ago

I'm curious what you thought was missing from Codeberg.

dr_kiszonka 3y ago

What irks me about GitHub is their LFS offering, which supports uploading/tracking files, but not deleting them. If you want to remove files from their LFS (and stop paying for it), you are supposed - and I am not kidding - delete the whole repo. (And they don't mention it on their LFS setup page.)