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He didn’t mention that the plea deal doesn’t care if you are innocent and even if you are innocence and are found innocent you might do 3 years in jail awaiting

He didn’t mention that the plea deal doesn’t care if you are innocent and even if you are innocence and are found innocent you might do 3 years in jail awaiting trial (bail is for wealthy people)

draugadrotten 3y ago
There are even people waiting 10+ years for a trial. https://reason.com/2023/07/26/he-spent-10-years-behind-bars-without-being-convicted-hell-have-to-wait-longer-to-have-the-case-resolved/ https://reason.com/2023/07/26/he-spent-10-years-behind-bars-... This is clearly the best justice. Believe me. We have triumphed over evil like nobody has seen before. I believe it’s a rough situation over there. There’s no question about it. The past does not have to define the future. It’s idealistic, it’s wonderful, it’s a beautiful thing.
- hulitu 3y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_cam...
- aaron695 3y ago
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- quickthrower2 3y ago
  Need to amend the amendment about a speedy trial to be about how fast you get the trial, not about whether the government intended to make it slow or not. If they can't do it quick, you get RoR.
2Gkashmiri 3y ago
For us mere peasants, there is a term "preventive detention" such they say is NOT an arrest so you do not have rich things like habeas corpus or bail. Plus, this is usually pre-crime detention so there is no crime, no case, no enquiry, no courts. Its fun https://www.legalservicesindia.com/law/article/5001/5/Preventive-Detention-Not-An-Arrest-No-24-Hour-Magistrate-Appearance-Required-J-K-L-HC https://www.legalservicesindia.com/law/article/5001/5/Preven... Another nice thing t was held that the law of preventive detention is not unconstitutional since it has no objective criterion for ordering preventive detention, and instead relies on the executive’s subjective judgment. This viewpoint is based on the fact that preventive detention is not punitive, but rather preventative, and is used to prevent a person from engaging in actions that are seen to be harmful to specific goals that the law of preventive detention aims to regulate. As a result, preventive detention is based on suspicion or expectation rather than proof. https://blog.ipleaders.in/extending-protections-accused-light-case-qian-abdul-qayoom-v-state-jk/#Preventive_detention https://blog.ipleaders.in/extending-protections-accused-ligh...
- alephnerd 3y ago
  For American commentators, this is a Commonwealth holdover from British Colonial jurisprudence (Australia, NZ, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Singapore, South Africa). Should be done away with, but it most likely won't be as long as Indian Law and Order concentrates more on "Order" and less on "Law". Also the chronic lack of Judges in India is a major issue impacting bail.

He didn’t mention that the plea deal doesn’t care if you are innocent and even if you are innocence and are found innocent you might do 3 years in jail awaiting trial (bail is for wealthy people)

draugadrotten 3y ago

There are even people waiting 10+ years for a trial. https://reason.com/2023/07/26/he-spent-10-years-behind-bars-without-being-convicted-hell-have-to-wait-longer-to-have-the-case-resolved/ https://reason.com/2023/07/26/he-spent-10-years-behind-bars-... This is clearly the best justice. Believe me. We have triumphed over evil like nobody has seen before. I believe it’s a rough situation over there. There’s no question about it. The past does not have to define the future. It’s idealistic, it’s wonderful, it’s a beautiful thing.

hulitu 3y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_cam...
aaron695 3y ago
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quickthrower2 3y ago
Need to amend the amendment about a speedy trial to be about how fast you get the trial, not about whether the government intended to make it slow or not. If they can't do it quick, you get RoR.

2Gkashmiri 3y ago

For us mere peasants, there is a term "preventive detention" such they say is NOT an arrest so you do not have rich things like habeas corpus or bail. Plus, this is usually pre-crime detention so there is no crime, no case, no enquiry, no courts. Its fun https://www.legalservicesindia.com/law/article/5001/5/Preventive-Detention-Not-An-Arrest-No-24-Hour-Magistrate-Appearance-Required-J-K-L-HC https://www.legalservicesindia.com/law/article/5001/5/Preven... Another nice thing t was held that the law of preventive detention is not unconstitutional since it has no objective criterion for ordering preventive detention, and instead relies on the executive’s subjective judgment. This viewpoint is based on the fact that preventive detention is not punitive, but rather preventative, and is used to prevent a person from engaging in actions that are seen to be harmful to specific goals that the law of preventive detention aims to regulate. As a result, preventive detention is based on suspicion or expectation rather than proof. https://blog.ipleaders.in/extending-protections-accused-light-case-qian-abdul-qayoom-v-state-jk/#Preventive_detention https://blog.ipleaders.in/extending-protections-accused-ligh...

alephnerd 3y ago
For American commentators, this is a Commonwealth holdover from British Colonial jurisprudence (Australia, NZ, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Singapore, South Africa). Should be done away with, but it most likely won't be as long as Indian Law and Order concentrates more on "Order" and less on "Law". Also the chronic lack of Judges in India is a major issue impacting bail.