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Nope. The wind farm wasn't wasting space. However, the coal companies had gotten mining rights for that area long ago and now exercise them for profit. Coal pow
by _ph_ 3y ago
Nope. The wind farm wasn't wasting space. However, the coal companies had gotten mining rights for that area long ago and now exercise them for profit. Coal power generation is on an all-time low in Germany. There is also no energy shortage in Germany.
When Russia started the war and cut off gas deliveries, of course the energy markets spiked, but prices are down again to pre-war levels. They are - beyond that spike - not strangling the economy. But it certainly wouldn't have hurt, if the previous government had not slowed down the ramping up of renewables.
- Geisterde 3y ago1. Its easy to look up the data, compared to the "spike" prices have come down, they remain far higher than 2020. https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/electricity-price https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/electricity-price 2. Its called revealed preference, they were wasting space that could be used for a more profitable endevor, coal mining.
- _ph_ 3y agoThe reason we stop coal mining isn't that we "need the space" for wind generators, it is, that we don't want to destroy our countryside even more for company profits and of course climate concerns. Of course, both parts of the environmental damages are no concern to the companies profitting.
- Geisterde 3y agoIm having trouble understanding how that's relevant. Nuclear is green, they had nuclear, they decided to shut it down, energy prices go up, now they are taking down a wind farm to get more coal. Is there something you just fundamentally miss here? You think thats just a-ok because at least we are talking about how much we care about the environment? The policies have failed.
- _ph_ 3y agoNo, you are mixing things up. The mining rights are old. It is not that someone suddenly decided to mine more coal. Quite contrary, all plans for coal usage are being cut down considerably, as it is replaced with renewables. That the wind generators had to be taken down for mining coal is just sad but the result of older mining rights. As how much nuclear is clean is disputable, but there are multiple reasons to shut it down. That the energy prices went up has nothing to do with the nuclear shutdown but for other reasons which have been named. Fact is, renewable energy is strongly up and that is going to continue. Because we care about the environment.
- Geisterde 3y agoThe company never had to exercise those mining rights, they chose to take down the wind farm and mine coal. I am not mixing things up, you are very clearly missing the point; they decided mining for coal would be more profitable, it was never your decision in the first place, no one cares about anyones feelings here, its economics. If you take cheap nuclear energy out of the equation then of course energy prices rise. You are taking off supply, that pushes cost up to meet demand. You clearly dont care enough about the environment to question the strategy used in protecting it; if you want people to tolerate green energy it has to be cost effective.
- _ph_ 3y agoIf you had read my answers you would have spottet, that I wrote that the company continuned the mining due to profits. Not because it benefits the community or the envorionmen. That nuclear is cheap is a lie. It is that simple. And if more people understand that they are told lies about cheap nuclear, they will ask for green energy.
- Geisterde 3y agoI operated nuclear reactors for 6 years, I am well aware of what is required. Their being nearly regulated out of existence has nothing to do with reactor safety nor environmental protection, youve been had by the fossile fuel industry.