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I wonder if this will impact specialized photo and other graphic art printers? Things like the large format Epson and other Pro printers. What about plotters an

I wonder if this will impact specialized photo and other graphic art printers? Things like the large format Epson and other Pro printers. What about plotters and vinyl cutout printers? They usually have a ton of driver specific settings, etc. for tuning the output. How will these settings be managed without drivers specific to them?

DaiPlusPlus 3y ago
Those kinds of printers aren't used to print things directly from within WinWord.exe though.
meandmycode 3y ago
It's written in the linked article actually, there will be new lower privileged apps that can do this
lakpan 3y ago
I wish I knew anything about printing, but why can’t my computer just send a PDF to the printer and have it deal with the details itself? I don’t quite understand the need for the computer to have to get into the nitty gritty other than just sending the source and a JSON. Printers nowadays can handle the printing autonomously (obviously, since they can print via WiFi/bluetooth/pendrive since 2005)
- pjmlp 3y ago
  Business laserprinters were always like that in regards to Postscript, followed by PDF, assuming your wallet is confortable with it.
- tonyedgecombe 3y ago
  You need the user to select paper trays, simplex or duplex, etc. For bigger devices that might include document finishing options. Label printers might have a guillotine. Print/release where you need a pin at the printer to release the document are becoming more prevalent. All this requires some interaction with the user. IPP Everywhere covers a lot but I'm guessing there will be some niche requirements that it misses.
  - pxx 3y ago
    This happens at a different layer than the printer driver; you just need to modify the postscript. Paper trays, duplex, duplex with tumble, and cutting are specifiable in postscript; this is `setpagedevice`. Even things like custom stapler options (staple first two pages, etc) can be specified. See something like https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/bpp01888 https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/bpp01888 for docs
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    - tonyedgecombe 3y ago
      As I said IPP Everywhere covers a lot but there will always be requirements that haven't been considered.
rini17 3y ago
Their manufacturers have better incentive to provide quality drivers. For models after EoL there's always the "an old machine, dedicated, not connected to network" solution.
WhyQ 3y ago
Might be don’t update situations.. errh

DaiPlusPlus 3y ago

Those kinds of printers aren't used to print things directly from within WinWord.exe though.

meandmycode 3y ago

It's written in the linked article actually, there will be new lower privileged apps that can do this

lakpan 3y ago

I wish I knew anything about printing, but why can’t my computer just send a PDF to the printer and have it deal with the details itself? I don’t quite understand the need for the computer to have to get into the nitty gritty other than just sending the source and a JSON. Printers nowadays can handle the printing autonomously (obviously, since they can print via WiFi/bluetooth/pendrive since 2005)

pjmlp 3y ago
Business laserprinters were always like that in regards to Postscript, followed by PDF, assuming your wallet is confortable with it.
tonyedgecombe 3y ago
You need the user to select paper trays, simplex or duplex, etc. For bigger devices that might include document finishing options. Label printers might have a guillotine. Print/release where you need a pin at the printer to release the document are becoming more prevalent. All this requires some interaction with the user. IPP Everywhere covers a lot but I'm guessing there will be some niche requirements that it misses.
- pxx 3y ago
  This happens at a different layer than the printer driver; you just need to modify the postscript. Paper trays, duplex, duplex with tumble, and cutting are specifiable in postscript; this is `setpagedevice`. Even things like custom stapler options (staple first two pages, etc) can be specified. See something like https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/bpp01888 https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/bpp01888 for docs
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  - tonyedgecombe 3y ago
    As I said IPP Everywhere covers a lot but there will always be requirements that haven't been considered.

rini17 3y ago

Their manufacturers have better incentive to provide quality drivers. For models after EoL there's always the "an old machine, dedicated, not connected to network" solution.

WhyQ 3y ago

Might be don’t update situations.. errh