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> Most new cars are sold with features roughly in parity with Autopilot. Really? My understanding is that many new vehicles have lane keep assist and dynamic c

> Most new cars are sold with features roughly in parity with Autopilot. Really? My understanding is that many new vehicles have lane keep assist and dynamic cruise control, but that they are much more limited than Autopilot. For example, lots of cars have much tighter limits on the curves they will follow. They also don't have the UI that Autopilot has, which shows what cars it detects. This gives more of a sense of full autonomy (although I find it a bit creepy/worrisome when vehicles appear and disappear on the screen for no reason — one would think this would give people pause). There are definitely more expensive vehicles (Cadillac, Mercedes) that have more robust systems, but my sense is that your typical Toyota, Subaru, etc. isn't close to Autopilot.

simondotau 3y ago
Autopilot really is just adaptive cruise control and lane centering. It can't change lanes by itself. It can't take an exit. It won't stop at an intersection. It can't turn corners. These things are blindingly obvious within a few minutes of use. Yes it's more slick than the cruise assist features on your typical Toyota, Subaru etc, but not dramatically so. Some people argue that Tesla customers think they've been sold autonomy. I can't see how. Tesla goes to pains to make you aware of the $12k you would need to spend to get the system that "self drives". You are painfully aware of the $12k you didn't spend.
- jaktet 3y ago
  What’s confusing to me is I consider “autopilot” to be what happens when I press down on the stalk once, which doesn’t do lane centering and only enables adaptive cruise control. Reading the current marketing descriptions of the features (https://www.autopilotreview.com/tesla-autopilot-vs-enhanced-autopilot/#:~:text='Standard' https://www.autopilotreview.com/tesla-autopilot-vs-enhanced-... Autopilot – this was,and Navigate-on-Autopilot) doesn’t help. If you don’t have FSD beta purchased or enhanced autopilot purchased, does pressing down on the stalk twice enable lane centering?

simondotau 3y ago

Autopilot really is just adaptive cruise control and lane centering. It can't change lanes by itself. It can't take an exit. It won't stop at an intersection. It can't turn corners. These things are blindingly obvious within a few minutes of use. Yes it's more slick than the cruise assist features on your typical Toyota, Subaru etc, but not dramatically so. Some people argue that Tesla customers think they've been sold autonomy. I can't see how. Tesla goes to pains to make you aware of the $12k you would need to spend to get the system that "self drives". You are painfully aware of the $12k you didn't spend.

jaktet 3y ago
What’s confusing to me is I consider “autopilot” to be what happens when I press down on the stalk once, which doesn’t do lane centering and only enables adaptive cruise control. Reading the current marketing descriptions of the features (https://www.autopilotreview.com/tesla-autopilot-vs-enhanced-autopilot/#:~:text='Standard' https://www.autopilotreview.com/tesla-autopilot-vs-enhanced-... Autopilot – this was,and Navigate-on-Autopilot) doesn’t help. If you don’t have FSD beta purchased or enhanced autopilot purchased, does pressing down on the stalk twice enable lane centering?