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I got to visit Midway Atoll and see Wisdom about 15 years ago. Albatrosses everywhere, like you have to be careful not to step on them. It’s an amazing place an

I got to visit Midway Atoll and see Wisdom about 15 years ago. Albatrosses everywhere, like you have to be careful not to step on them. It’s an amazing place and one of the most memorable experiences of my life. It’s become harder to get there, but if you have the opportunity, especially if you love nature and wildlife, go!

c-fe 3y ago
I would love to visit midway atoll. Im not big into birds but the sheer amount of wildlife on that small place is mesmerizing. I have spent more than one afternoon moving around on google street view across the island and sharing that fascination with friends. Its also one of my life goals to visit in person mostly just because at this point this place seems unreal, dream-like to me. Unfortunately from what i found for me as a non-US resident, non-researcher it seems to be near impossible to be allowed there, which is great for the preservation of the eco system but also unfortunate for me.
rvba 3y ago
If you love nature and wildlife the best thing would be to leave them alone.
- fastball 3y ago
  Boo. Human appreciation is what gives nature and wildlife any significant meaning. The universe doesn't care about a 70 year old albatross. Only we care.
  - rvba 3y ago
    Evolution is what gives nature meaning. By bringing more tourists you endanger those animals to die. The best for them would be to create as many natural reserves as possible. The universe does not give a fuck about your appreciation, it cares (a little, little bit) about your carbon footprint, or you leaving the animals alone. They already have it quite difficult.
    - antasvara 3y ago
      Evolution as a process doesn't "care" in any meaningful sense. It doesn't "want" any specific outcome. In fact, this is one of the more damaging ideas that people end up with (e.g. "Why don't squirells just evolve to not get hit by cars?"). Evolution is a term we've used to describe a naturally occurring, largely random process. Animals get random mutations; if it causes that animal to be more likely to have successful offspring, you will tend to see more offspring with that mutation.
      - rvba 3y ago
        OP coming and making animals or plants die off is also a part of evolution. Animals already have it quite hard without humans interfering. OP wants to bring even more interference to their habitats. There is also all the pollution. Also evolution gives the nature meaning, not "human appreciation" as written just two posts above.
        fastball 3y ago
        You keep saying that without explaining yourself. How does evolution give nature meaning? How is it more than a random process?

c-fe 3y ago

I would love to visit midway atoll. Im not big into birds but the sheer amount of wildlife on that small place is mesmerizing. I have spent more than one afternoon moving around on google street view across the island and sharing that fascination with friends. Its also one of my life goals to visit in person mostly just because at this point this place seems unreal, dream-like to me. Unfortunately from what i found for me as a non-US resident, non-researcher it seems to be near impossible to be allowed there, which is great for the preservation of the eco system but also unfortunate for me.

rvba 3y ago

If you love nature and wildlife the best thing would be to leave them alone.

fastball 3y ago
Boo. Human appreciation is what gives nature and wildlife any significant meaning. The universe doesn't care about a 70 year old albatross. Only we care.
- rvba 3y ago
  Evolution is what gives nature meaning. By bringing more tourists you endanger those animals to die. The best for them would be to create as many natural reserves as possible. The universe does not give a fuck about your appreciation, it cares (a little, little bit) about your carbon footprint, or you leaving the animals alone. They already have it quite difficult.
  - antasvara 3y ago
    Evolution as a process doesn't "care" in any meaningful sense. It doesn't "want" any specific outcome. In fact, this is one of the more damaging ideas that people end up with (e.g. "Why don't squirells just evolve to not get hit by cars?"). Evolution is a term we've used to describe a naturally occurring, largely random process. Animals get random mutations; if it causes that animal to be more likely to have successful offspring, you will tend to see more offspring with that mutation.
    - rvba 3y ago
      OP coming and making animals or plants die off is also a part of evolution. Animals already have it quite hard without humans interfering. OP wants to bring even more interference to their habitats. There is also all the pollution. Also evolution gives the nature meaning, not "human appreciation" as written just two posts above.
      - fastball 3y ago
        You keep saying that without explaining yourself. How does evolution give nature meaning? How is it more than a random process?