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Violence on Reddit Support Forums Unique to r/NoFap
- camdenlock 3y agoIt’s almost as if humans are just apes with barely passable table manners…
- akomtu 3y agoThat's an example of political social study, with a rather odd goal of demonizing that "nofap" movement.
- s1artibartfast 3y agoyes, it is an interesting topic, but the article reads more like a hit piece than curious and open minded scientific investigation. Similarly, it strikes me as odd that the author repeatedly struggles to wrap their head around the idea that a forum of > 1 million people holds heterogeneous and even conflicting opinions. It also implausabily glosses over the idea that there could be a real and sizable contingent of people with unhealthy personal relationships with sex or pornography
- matt-attack 3y agoWouldn’t a nofap subscriber specifically NOT consuming pornography? Or is zero what you meant by unhealthy?
- klipt 3y agoI don't think it's the specific number so much as the feelings of shame associated with it that's unhealthy.
- philosopher1234 3y agoWhy is the shame unhealthy? How could we even say, without knowing why an individual is ashamed? Maybe they should be. Some shame is appropriate (eg Trump ought to feel ashamed about many things, though he doesn’t seem to)
- DontchaKnowit 3y agoDont you think someone who is on nofap is more likely to have had unhealthy porno habits in the past? Your post reads like saying "dont you think alcoholics anonymous would have the least amount of drinking problems of any population?"
- s1artibartfast 3y agoNofap is targeted as an abstinence approach for porn addicts that feel they have a problem.
- klyrs 3y ago> Scientists regularly comment on the misleading use of their research by NoFap to monetize (Mascherek et al. Citation2021) and on NoFap’s non-evidence-based practice (Shahinyan et al. Citation2023). NoFap has responded with dozens of legal intimidation letters or lawsuits to scientists, media, and scientific organizations (e.g., Plummer Citation2020) and attempted to prohibit scientists from collecting data concerning NoFap (Gałuszka Citation2020; Prause and Binnie Citation2023). The feeling is mutual, apparently. Weird how this movement demonizing masturbation is seen as "demonized" by a study documenting violent outcomes from the movement. Is the tradition of shaming men's sexual desires so sacred that we should overlook its violent extremes? By appearances, they've done considerable research to back up their claims. Do you have evidence that they're being dishonest, or are you just smearing them?
- akomtu 3y agoThis is a political hit piece masquerading as research. If I cared enough, I'd start with finding out who funded that "research".
- throwup238 3y ago[dead]
- arp242 3y ago> Of the 421 violent posts identified from September 2011 to September 2022 421 posts over a period of 11 years. That's less than one a week. From a subreddit with (at present) 1.1 million subscribers. Whoop-die-fucking-doo. Hacker News has more violent posts than that. It's pretty clear from the very first sentence that this piece is hugely judgemental and coloured. This is not a scientific publication, it's a blog post, and not a very good blog post to boot. This seems part of some bigger pissing match and a scientific publication is being narcissist abused because "believe the science!" or some such. I have no real knowledge or like or dislike of /r/NoFap or anyone else here, but this does not seem like a serious study or analysis or anything else.
- basedbros 3y agoSociety hates (and fears) men that self organize.
- jmye 3y agoThat seems like an odd takeaway from the link.