> and also carve-away infra human costs into other departments That's another great point; with the on-prem system where we run our own massive k8s/vm/data lak

> and also carve-away infra human costs into other departments That's another great point; with the on-prem system where we run our own massive k8s/vm/data lake cloud, every team just throws things at it willy nilly and even though we know how to calculate total operating cost it's very difficult to set up backpressure to individual orgs and their budgets so there is quite a bit of waste I feel. With something like AWS the billing system is very detailed and is easy to attach to teams upfront. I'm not sure if it's good or bad that things are more efficient due to teams being incentivized to pay attention, but I kinda like it.