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No thank you. I like my low density, low traffic areas

causal 3y ago
Nothing in that plan suggested removing you from your home.
mrkeen 3y ago
Low density is high traffic. If you're living the suburban dream, there's nowhere to walk (it's all neighbours' lawns), no tram or metro is coming to pick you up, so you need a car to get anywhere. There's traffic on the way in, parking lots when you get there, and you can't even drink.
- asylteltine 3y ago
  That’s okay with me if it means I have lots of space to live and don’t need to hear or see neighbors.
  - ethanbond 3y ago
    If that’s the sort of density you want (countryside), moderate density housing is your friend. Your primary threat is suburban sprawl.
- jjav 3y ago
  > Low density is high traffic. Low density is low traffic for the simple reason that low density means few people, few people means low traffic.
ryukafalz 3y ago
You can have those, far away from cities. Just don't expect to have those in and around cities. Cities need to be able to grow. Too many cities and inner ring suburbs in the US are basically locked in amber and it's a real problem. EDIT: Though I agree with the goal of "low traffic," and agree with the other commenters that low density areas in the US tend to not be low traffic. (At least not near cities - again, get far enough away from cities if you want low density and low traffic.) I suspect you won't like the ways a city might get there though.
ben_w 3y ago
I've visited various places in the US in CA, Nevada, Utah, NY, NJ, Connecticut, RI, and Massachusetts, and the US idea of "low density" is incompatible with my idea of "low traffic". Not that I'd simply delete your planning laws: I would copy the high-level stuff from Europe, and keep whatever your local rules are for fire, hurricane, earthquake, and tornado safety etc.
tstrimple 3y ago
We should really change the tax structure so folks who prefer low density actually have to pay for the privilege instead of being entirely subsidized by urban environments. Suburban streets cannot pay for themselves on a suburban tax base. It’s entirely unsustainable. https://youtu.be/7IsMeKl-Sv0?si=o38eBps-znTt3Cez https://youtu.be/7IsMeKl-Sv0?si=o38eBps-znTt3Cez

Nothing in that plan suggested removing you from your home.

Low density is high traffic. If you're living the suburban dream, there's nowhere to walk (it's all neighbours' lawns), no tram or metro is coming to pick you up, so you need a car to get anywhere. There's traffic on the way in, parking lots when you get there, and you can't even drink.

asylteltine 3y ago
That’s okay with me if it means I have lots of space to live and don’t need to hear or see neighbors.
- ethanbond 3y ago
  If that’s the sort of density you want (countryside), moderate density housing is your friend. Your primary threat is suburban sprawl.
jjav 3y ago
> Low density is high traffic. Low density is low traffic for the simple reason that low density means few people, few people means low traffic.

ryukafalz 3y ago

You can have those, far away from cities. Just don't expect to have those in and around cities. Cities need to be able to grow. Too many cities and inner ring suburbs in the US are basically locked in amber and it's a real problem. EDIT: Though I agree with the goal of "low traffic," and agree with the other commenters that low density areas in the US tend to not be low traffic. (At least not near cities - again, get far enough away from cities if you want low density and low traffic.) I suspect you won't like the ways a city might get there though.

ben_w 3y ago

I've visited various places in the US in CA, Nevada, Utah, NY, NJ, Connecticut, RI, and Massachusetts, and the US idea of "low density" is incompatible with my idea of "low traffic". Not that I'd simply delete your planning laws: I would copy the high-level stuff from Europe, and keep whatever your local rules are for fire, hurricane, earthquake, and tornado safety etc.

tstrimple 3y ago

We should really change the tax structure so folks who prefer low density actually have to pay for the privilege instead of being entirely subsidized by urban environments. Suburban streets cannot pay for themselves on a suburban tax base. It’s entirely unsustainable. https://youtu.be/7IsMeKl-Sv0?si=o38eBps-znTt3Cez https://youtu.be/7IsMeKl-Sv0?si=o38eBps-znTt3Cez